cathal Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Hey all,At our most recent grading, at the first of July, four people were testing for their Shodan. Two were adults, the other two were kids. It began like they typically do with lining up in front of the examiner's table and doing basics. But that's where the test kind of deviated from the norm. In all the years I've watched gradings I've never seen one like this. Two of the testers just didn't try. There was no effort, no kime. It was rather like watching someone who just didn't care.Has anyone ever encountered something like this for a black belt grading? .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
Aodhan Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Hey all,At our most recent grading, at the first of July, four people were testing for their Shodan. Two were adults, the other two were kids. It began like they typically do with lining up in front of the examiner's table and doing basics. But that's where the test kind of deviated from the norm. In all the years I've watched gradings I've never seen one like this. Two of the testers just didn't try. There was no effort, no kime. It was rather like watching someone who just didn't care.Has anyone ever encountered something like this for a black belt grading?Yep. I've seen it, usually from people that just assume that they have it "in the bag" and only need to show up for the testing. When I've been on judging panels, I usually no change students that do that. It's really a shame when it comes from someone that *should* be putting out their best effort for a milestone achievement in their life.Aodhan There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other.-Douglas Everett, American hockey player
cathal Posted July 20, 2006 Author Posted July 20, 2006 It was rather embarassing to be honest, because the head examiner kept ordering them to "get into it". In the end he made them all do push-ups until they collapsed...to see how much drive they had to pass.We learned that the two adults passed. No word on the others, which perhaps means they failed. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
bushido_man96 Posted July 21, 2006 Posted July 21, 2006 It was rather embarassing to be honest, because the head examiner kept ordering them to "get into it". In the end he made them all do push-ups until they collapsed...to see how much drive they had to pass.We learned that the two adults passed. No word on the others, which perhaps means they failed.Which is probably as it should be. No McDojo there!I see that quite a bit in class as well. I have to ride some of the kids now and then, to get them to do what I know they can do.It is frustrating to see, but it makes me feel good that I know that I am giving it all I have, even if it only 50% of what some natural athlete is doing when he is slacking off. That is the epitome of integrity. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
patusai Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Maybe they felt that it was a given. Maybe they felt that showing up to the test was enough. Maybe they thought it took 3 years to get to black belt and they put in three years so...they were there to get the black belt? "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt
KarateK Posted July 26, 2006 Posted July 26, 2006 We have had something like that, we have 4 clubs, one of which is not taken by our main sensei. They joined us from another organisation and just train under our name. However all the black belts grade together. On this occasion two of our students were taking Shodan, as were two of theirs. Our 2 completely outshone them, they are fantastic anyway but up against the other 2 they were in a different league. Its a shame as they let themselves down and their instructors. Karate Ni Sentinashi
Jiffy Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 This is fairly uncommon, but by giving these students the assesment they deserve (probably a fail) it will certainly keep them on their toes for the next time. The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.
bushido_man96 Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 Just a side note:We have a testing this week Thursday. Just yesterday at class, the instructor was letting some of the kids know that they may have to wait another cycle, because they don't look ready. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Shotokan-kez Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 I see that in a lot of our classes and gradings. Unfortunatly there isnt a lot of adults in our dojo so a lot of the kids show hardly any passion or spirit, it angers me when they are given their belts when really they didnt deserve it. Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk
KarateK Posted August 2, 2006 Posted August 2, 2006 We have found ourselves losing members due to the students assuming that in four months they would grade - without actually putting in the time and effort. Sadly they were mistaken and as such do not grade, eventually this weeds out the less committed students. Karate Ni Sentinashi
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