armanox Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Anyone other then myself notice that when they're at a competition, that people just yell and yell and yell? And also kiai excesively. Maybe it's just a result of many of them doing sport karate vs my training in traditional karate? But it seems that exessive shouting has become status quo in karate outside of Okinawa/Japan. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I see it in my dojo, though we don't compete. Sort of like having a fancy sport car to make up for certain deficiencies, I see excessive kias as a way to make up for deficient power or technique.We have a fellow in our dojo that continually grunts, hisses, and kias loudly to everything in our class, but forgets his techniques and falls apart terribly in two person free sparring. The quietest guy in the class is probably our most dangerous.With respect,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Yup...see it all the time. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Fisher Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 It is distraction from poor technique sometimes. But to me its just pointless. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I agree. The yell is supposed to surprise and emphasize a technique. There is no surprise and no emphasis if it is done on every technique. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerlineage Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I agree very much. At the last tourney I judged, there was this girl who stood six feet away from me and literally screamed her name, instructor, etc. into my face. Her form was pretty good, but she screamed the whooole time. I think she ended up getting second or something...I put her down for third or fourth.I tend to just focus on letting out breaths at the proper time, or tightening my body just as a kiai would, but minus the yelling. Although, I must admit to a bit of drama myself in tournaments - unfortunately, that's usually what wins, though. American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 If a good form has a couple of good, well placed kihaps, then it is great. But too many, aye. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I have a lack of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan-kez Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I have never been to a taurnament so i wouldn't know. I had never noticed excessive kia's in our dojo, just very loud one's...which even i am guilty of. Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shui Tora Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 When I compete, I must remember to only Kiai when I think I have performed a good technique in order to gain a point(s)... i think it is unnessecary (sp?) to kiai all the time, when your techniques are not getting the points... Only Kiai where appropiate... To know the road ahead; ask those coming back... ~ Chinese Proverb" The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants. " ~ Master Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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