tdiedwards Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Hi,Are some styles of karate more suitable for competition than others?If i wanted to learn karate with competitions being my priority and self-defence being more of a spin-off benefit, which styles should i consider/ avoid?Also, has anyone heard of SHOTON karate? Have seen a club bearing the name but can't find any info about it, unless it's an alternative name for shotokan?Thanks for your advice,Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan-kez Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Never heard of shoton i do shotokan i have never competed so i cant really advise on which style would be best to compete with.Kez xx Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 What type of competitions are you looking to get into? For example flashy, high gymnastic? Or perhaps just fighting and that's it. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 In karate , competition divides in two sections, 1- kata (Form) , in which you compete in forms individually or as a team member2- Kumite (sparring)if you wanna go all the way, then WKF (world karate federation) is the biggest organization and if karate finds its way to Olympics game most likely WKF will represent karatethere are 4 major karate style which you can choose and be safe (almost accepted everywhere and every competition)1-shotokan2-Goju Ryu3-Shito Ryu4-Wado Ryuif you are planning for Kumite competition then Shotokan is the most adopted system, for Kata i would say shito Ryu is the most suitedhere is a kata list SCHEDULE OF W.K.F. COMPULSORY (SHITEI) KATAGoju Seipai SaifaShoto Jion Kanku DaiShito Bassai Dai SeienchinWado Seishan ChintoMAJOR KATA LIST OF THE WORLD KARATE FEDERATIONGOJU-RYU KATAS WADO-RYU KATAS1. Sanchin 1. Kushanku2. Saifa 2. Naihanchi3. Seiyunchin 3. Seishan4. Shisochin 4. Chinto5. Sanseru 5. Passai6. Seisan 6. Niseishi7. Seipai 7. Rohai8. Kururunfa 8. Wanshu9. Suparimpei 9. Jion10. Tensho 10. JitteSHOTOKAN KATAS 1. Bassai-Dai 12. Jion2. Bassai-Sho 13. Sochin3. Kanku-Dai 14. Nijushiho Sho4. Kanku-Sho 15. Goju Shiho-Dai5. Tekki - Shodan 16. Goju Shiho-Sho6. Tekki - Nidan 17. Chinte7. Tekki - Sandan 18. Unsu8. Hangetsu 19. Meikyo9. Jitte 20. Wankan10. Enpi 21. Jiin11. Gankaku SHITO-RYU KATAS 1. Jitte 22. Naifanchin Shodan2. Jion 23. Naifanchin Nidan3. Jiin 24. Naifanchin Sandan4. Matsukaze 25. Aoyagi (Seiryu)5. Wanshu 26. Jyuroku6. Rohai 27. Nipaipo7. Bassai Dai 28. Sanchin8. Bassai Sho 29. Tensho9. Tomari Bassai 30. Seipai10. Matsumura Bassai 31. Sanseiru11. Kosokun Dai 32. Saifa12. Kosokun Sho 33. Shisochin13. Kosokun Shiho 34. Kururunfa14. Chinto 35. Suparimpei15. Chinte 36. Hakucho16. Seienchin 37. Pachu17. Sochin 38. Heiku18. Niseishi 39. Paiku19. Gojushiho 40. Annan20. Unshu 41. Annanko21. Seisan 42. Papuren 43. Chatanyara Kushanku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdiedwards Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hi,thanks for that great info everyone.i like kata, but for competition i'd like to fight. just fighting would probably come before high gymnastics. i'm not sure this 31 year old is ever going to be very gymnastic but competative in a fight? i hope so. i'm short and fast if that makes much difference in choosing a style? my usual tactic from silat was try to get inside with a punch (i kept hurting my toes too! i hate front kicks:) )i remember once reading about a style called......sorry i have to try to spell it phonetically.....KEE-O-KA-SHIN-KAY or similar. it's a full contact style. does full contact just mean more focus on sparring in training?Thanks loads,Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 That is Kyokushin-Kai, or Kyukushin. Full contact arts like that mean that when you punch, you're actually punching someone. In this case a fellow student, senior student, or instructor.Short and fast well that can be many arts. A few short people I know go for punching arts like Kempo and Boxing. Then again you could go for a grappling art like Jiu-Jitsu, or Judo. I'd recommend checking out a few local schools to "try them on". .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarateK Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I have to say I dont think my style is very useful in some tournaments. The katas look great but we are used to sparring purely for technique, light combat. Karate Ni Sentinashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shui Tora Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Hey, thanks P.A.L for the list of Kata, i was trying to look for those, but couldn't find them on the site!Cheers! Out of those 21, I can do 12 of them! Cool! To know the road ahead; ask those coming back... ~ Chinese Proverb" The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants. " ~ Master Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Mark Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 The Style of Kyokushin Karate The Japanese refer to Mas Oyama's Kyokushin karate as kenka karate, meaning "brawling" or "brutal" karate. But Mas Oyama tells his students "Kenka karate ja-nai! Budo karate da!" which translates to "This is not brawling karate! It's budo karate!One look at a Kyokushin karate tournament reveals the answer. Kyokushin karate fighters in Knockdown style tournaments are among the fiercest in the world. Many Kyokushin Karate students consider themselves modern day Samurai, by following Mas Oyama's teachings encompassed the Budo / Bushido fighting spirit and attitude. This spirit which is seen in demanding training sessions, gradings & tournaments is very evident of this. At World level competitions there are no weight classes; a fight ends only when one fighter proves beyond doubt his superiority, which can mean his opponent may be flat on the mat and may need to be carried away on a stretcher.Kyokushin Karate is Power Karate!Why does Sosai Oyama refer to it as "budo karate"? Perhaps because kyokushin fighters personify the budo (warrior) concept better than any other karate stylists. Through his budo karate, Sosai Oyama has indeed revived the Japanese spirit in terms of the positive characteristics of bushido, the " way of the warrior," which was so much of the culture of feudal Japan. In a modern world of peace and unification, many have forgotten this ancient code and see no need for the old warrior ethic but in a time when it is no longer necessary to carry a sword for personal protection, the discipline of budo recreates in the hearts of its followers the do-or-die attitude of living life by the unspoken law of the sword. And that law is: Be prepared to sacrifice.Always remember that all Karate-ka, whether black belt or beginner who is totally ignorant to the teachings of Karate, train in the same dojo & on the same floor. All practice the same techniques and aspire toward the same ideals. Therefore, all are governed by the same requirements of etiquette. Osu: Sensei Markhttps://www.marktysondojo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdiedwards Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 The Style of Kyokushin Karate The Japanese refer to Mas Oyama's Kyokushin karate as kenka karate, meaning "brawling" or "brutal" karate. But Mas Oyama tells his students "Kenka karate ja-nai! Budo karate da!" which translates to "This is not brawling karate! It's budo karate!One look at a Kyokushin karate tournament reveals the answer. Kyokushin karate fighters in Knockdown style tournaments are among the fiercest in the world. Many Kyokushin Karate students consider themselves modern day Samurai, by following Mas Oyama's teachings encompassed the Budo / Bushido fighting spirit and attitude. This spirit which is seen in demanding training sessions, gradings & tournaments is very evident of this. At World level competitions there are no weight classes; a fight ends only when one fighter proves beyond doubt his superiority, which can mean his opponent may be flat on the mat and may need to be carried away on a stretcher.Kyokushin Karate is Power Karate!Why does Sosai Oyama refer to it as "budo karate"? Perhaps because kyokushin fighters personify the budo (warrior) concept better than any other karate stylists. Through his budo karate, Sosai Oyama has indeed revived the Japanese spirit in terms of the positive characteristics of bushido, the " way of the warrior," which was so much of the culture of feudal Japan. In a modern world of peace and unification, many have forgotten this ancient code and see no need for the old warrior ethic but in a time when it is no longer necessary to carry a sword for personal protection, the discipline of budo recreates in the hearts of its followers the do-or-die attitude of living life by the unspoken law of the sword. And that law is: Be prepared to sacrifice.Always remember that all Karate-ka, whether black belt or beginner who is totally ignorant to the teachings of Karate, train in the same dojo & on the same floor. All practice the same techniques and aspire toward the same ideals. Therefore, all are governed by the same requirements of etiquette.This sounds like the kind of training regime I could like. Is there a Kyokushin dojo in Birmingham, UK?Thanks,Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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