AngelaG Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I'm not that fond of Jion. I much prefer the whippier kata, rather than the big, stomping kata.Quite a few people choose Jion for their black belt in my club, which I find quite weird as personally I think Bassai Dai is a much more superior kata.I'm quite liking Nijushiho and Kanku Sho at the moment. Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Funny you mention those two Angela....I've been flip flopping between which one I'm going to do in my Shodan grading. Bassai Dai....Jion....Bassai Dai....Jion....etc...etch... Personally, I love the power of Jion - but my sensei feels I'm stronger in Bassai Dai. Ahh...decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasutsune Makoto Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 best solution...get super good at both of them and have someone tell you what to do. No decisions there! Gi, Yu, Rei, Jin, Makoto, Melyo, Chugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan-kez Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share Posted July 23, 2006 My sensei tends to advise anyone going for black belt to chose bassai dai Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaG Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I think if you are a bigger, powerful person then Jion is more likely to suit you. But Bassai is great in that it can suit the smaller built people and the bigger people as it has components of power and flow/whip within it. Plus I think Bassai is more intuitive, it lets you know the rhythm and gives a lot of spaces to catch breath before exploding again. Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Funny you mention those two Angela....I've been flip flopping between which one I'm going to do in my Shodan grading. Bassai Dai....Jion....Bassai Dai....Jion....etc...etch... Personally, I love the power of Jion - but my sensei feels I'm stronger in Bassai Dai. Ahh...decisions.When we go for Shodan it may not matter which kata. If we select Bassai-Dai as our first kata, the examiner selects our second kata. If we've already gone with that one the examiner may invariably select Jion for us. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I've seen some gutsy folks do Kanku-dai when grading. I love that kata too, but at 65 moves - doing that for grading is like ritual suicide! I think I'll just practice them all for the love of them all! When we grade for Shodan (ususally with Okazaki-sensei or Yaguchi-sensei) - the elective kata they choose for us is one of the Heians or Teki-shodan. Last grading, they made everyone do Heian Yondan. Personally, I think it's genious, as it forces everyone have to perfect the BASIC katas, which are such an important foundation for the advanced katas (and good kihon). Remember, the translation for "shodan" is simply "first step". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotokan-kez Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share Posted July 23, 2006 I've seen some gutsy folks do Kanku-dai when grading. I love that kata too, but at 65 moves - doing that for grading is like ritual suicide! I think I'll just practice them all for the love of them all! When we grade for Shodan (ususally with Okazaki-sensei or Yaguchi-sensei) - the elective kata they choose for us is one of the Heians or Teki-shodan. Last grading, they made everyone do Heian Yondan. Personally, I think it's genious, as it forces everyone have to perfect the BASIC katas, which are such an important foundation for the advanced katas (and good kihon). Remember, the translation for "shodan" is simply "first step".I agree with you. Our sensei does the same at black belt gradings, makes the students perform a few of the heian kata's and like you i am often practising them all from kihon kata to the more advanced ones. Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsey Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 daimyo i totally agree with that about having to do one of the heians or tekki shodan. we did the same thing.i did kanku dai for my shodan though. its not that suicidal as long as you practice it a lot, but kata was always my favorite part of karate and i probably practiced it more than most students at my dojo. "Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaG Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I chose Bassai Dai for my shodan. However I also ended up doing Jion, Empi and Kanku Dai, as well as several of the lower grade kata. Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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