cathal Posted May 26, 2006 Author Posted May 26, 2006 I've done Jitte but haven't spent a lot on it. I plan to of course, and I have seen it done a great deal. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
pers Posted May 26, 2006 Posted May 26, 2006 Hangetsu is one of my favourite katas .I love this kata ,not least for it's great aid in developing correct breathing and tension ,synchronising all mind and body in the slow part .for it's aplications of self defence and then switching to full speed in the second part in quick multiple techniques !Practitioner gets the best of all in this kata ,but is not simply learning the moves and think the kata is mastered ! Far from it ! it takes a lot of time to realy begin to understand it properly but during that time the meaning of karate do begins to make sense more and more .Needless to say having a good master to teach you is a must !!this kata is the milestone of understanding shotokan's essense . never give up !
cathal Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 That is fascinating information. Thank you. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
Shotokan-kez Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Jion is good too i'm just learning that, but keep getting stuck on the last bit Walk away and your always a winner. https://www.shikata-shotokan.co.uk
Brandon Fisher Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Jion is good too i'm just learning that, but keep getting stuck on the last bitEasy to do it took me almost 3 years to get through that kata. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
pers Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 well, Hangetsu is not like Sanchin and Tensho, for sure not a before breakfast kata. but it's a solid kata, may be one of the oldest katas out there ( of course not Hangetsu itself but the original version Seasan), Hangetu stance is a deep stance but if it becomes a little bit higher then we have a fighting Naihanchi stance in 45 degree.Hangetsu is a close quarter stance and therefore not a deep stance ,it sure is a very strong stance that works great in close combat helping to provide powerful techniques .I agree that it is not a breakfast kata ,but I find the first 6 moves of the kata invigorating in the morning to say the least !The breathing combined with slow moves harmonise mind and body and bring in a sense of calm and assurance to practitioner .I have never done Tai chi and don't know much about it ,but when ever I watch Tai chi I get the same feeling ! never give up !
cathal Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 That's interesting, do Tai Chi practitioners have to use kime or are they into just relaxed movements? .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
P.A.L Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 well, Hangetsu is not like Sanchin and Tensho, for sure not a before breakfast kata. but it's a solid kata, may be one of the oldest katas out there ( of course not Hangetsu itself but the original version Seasan), Hangetu stance is a deep stance but if it becomes a little bit higher then we have a fighting Naihanchi stance in 45 degree.Hangetsu is a close quarter stance and therefore not a deep stance ,it sure is a very strong stance that works great in close combat helping to provide powerful techniques .I agree that it is not a breakfast kata ,but I find the first 6 moves of the kata invigorating in the morning to say the least !The breathing combined with slow moves harmonise mind and body and bring in a sense of calm and assurance to practitioner .I have never done Tai chi and don't know much about it ,but when ever I watch Tai chi I get the same feeling !i am agree that hangetsu stance has the potential of a close quarter stance based on foot angels but the way it's done in the kata is low for practical fighting, i would prefer a higher stance like Okinawan Seisan (shuri-te) or Okinawan Seisan (naha-te).
pers Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I don't know the okinawan's kata mentioned ,but I know hangetsu stance is not a deep stance .If you see a deep Hangetsu stance then you must question the practitioner as in my opinion he is not doing it correctly .I know that in tai chi breathing is very important ,therefore there is ki or chi as they call it or focusing the energy ,just diferrent terminology. never give up !
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