no gi'ing it in a gi class

[BJJ is 1]

Yeah, everyone in our school who competes does both Gi and No-Gi.

[makosub-wrestling]

I still am not convinced that using a gi adds any value to your submission game outside of gi compatitions. And all the examples for the gi still sound weak because nothing that a gi brings adds more value when met by using similar training in no gi. If you want better defense you work on the best no gi defense if you want better offense you work on no gi offense and so on. As to overall self-defense no gi style prepares you better for a fast and agressive attack witch is more like a real fight then the gi stlye witch is more like a game of chess where the person who can plan more moves ahead of the other is the one most likly to win.

[SubGrappler]

I still am not convinced that using a gi adds any value to your submission game outside of gi compatitions. And all the examples for the gi still sound weak because nothing that a gi brings adds more value when met by using similar training in no gi. If you want better defense you work on the best no gi defense if you want better offense you work on no gi offense and so on. As to overall self-defense no gi style prepares you better for a fast and agressive attack witch is more like a real fight then the gi stlye witch is more like a game of chess where the person who can plan more moves ahead of the other is the one most likly to win.

Not neccessarily- You have to take into account that what you're referring to relies on an individual fighters style rather than that of the entire martial art.

There are some people who are quite dynamic when fighting with the gi, and there are plenty that move slowly and are rather boring that fight no gi.

[ravenzoom]

Well learning to fight with a gi can surely be beneficial if you live in Canada like me and you get into a fight with someone wearing a jacket during winter

[glockmeister]

I train both with and without. The benefits of both have already been mentioned earlier in this thread.