italian_guy Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I would say for goju ryu the strength are: great striking and kicking,great blocks,great joint locks,and great stances weaknesses:no weapons,lack of ground fighting, and maybe moreSorry Goju_boi I have to disagree about ground fighing in Goju we do learn ground fighting and grappling... maybe not as much as a JJJ or BJJ practitioner but we learn some... I know that there are some schools where they teach also kobudo. However my school does not.I think the advantage of goju is that it is a pretty complete system even if it is mostly a striking art (ok it is karate not MMA), another advantage is that contain some ci kung elements.On the bad side I also think that Sanchin breating if done incorrectly can produce some arm, and the sparring is usually point fighting that maybe is not so good if you want to learn self defence.About my second art (JKD) I think that it is very good for self-defence and has also the advantage that it teaches a lot of diffent things, striking, locks, grappling, trapping, weapons (kali).The bad thing is that you don't have an indeep knowledge of all these aspects until some years have passed... that's why in my school it takes a minimum of 7 years to get a black label (equivalent of a black belt). ...and then you are only an expert beginner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I didn't say that we didn't do ground fighting in Goju-Ryu,just that it's very little.Because we do have ground moves.As for weapons my dojo has Kobudo,but Kobudo is considered as another style.Also I agree with you on the chi kung and sparring comments. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLueDevil Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Honestly, Im not far enough into my chosen styles. So far ive learned stand-up, chin na, ground defense, lots of counter grabs. I wont know what will actually work in a real life situation until it actually happens but I havent seen any weaknesses yet... There is no teacher but the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubGrappler Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I find it amusing the people who say "my style has no weaknesses." EVERY style has a weakness, no matter what. If you cross train in all phases of fighting, your weakness would be the area of least expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man thing Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Weaknesses:1) Cuong Nhu is comprised of 7 styles: Shotokan, Boxing, Judo, Tai Chi, Vietnamese ma's, Aikido, and Wing Chun. I consider that a weakness. although it takes a minimum of 3 years to get a black belt, I don't think you can be effective at all of those styles in that time. Obviously, one should train past bb, but you should be effective by that time.2) Too much kata. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think kata training is very realistic. You learn 50 ways to counter a right punch. Why not learn 1 counter(defence) for 50 attacks?3) Ki training at every level. Of course it works, but white belts need to be learning the basics. By ki training I mean apllying special magic pressure points.Strengths:1) Although hard to master, Cuong Nhu provides a great "springboard" for beginners. They get to experiment with several styles at once and decide what they want to pursue. Cuong Nhu students are very open to cross-training.2) Timed sparring, no points.3) Great full-body conditioning.4) Some full-strength grappling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Havent really heard of that style too much,is it similar to vovinam/viet vo dao? https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I find it amusing the people who say "my style has no weaknesses." EVERY style has a weakness, no matter what. If you cross train in all phases of fighting, your weakness would be the area of least expertise.I agree , every style has a weakness , however , it's good to know both advantages and disadvantages of the style you are practicing Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovine king Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 wing chun.mainly from the yip man hk line but also some strong influences from a different canton line from leung jan.weakness.not really the style but in what people expect of it. Too often, people who practice wing chun talk about theory too much and they put too much reliance in theories; they expect that just because they know how it's suposed to work and why it does, that they'll be able to make it work without actually practicing it. People have tended to sell wing chun as an art that doesn't rely on being big and strong and instead uses body structures and position and hand speed to neutralise everything that they end up believing that you don't have to work hard to get good. earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man thing Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Havent really heard of that style too much,is it similar to vovinam/viet vo dao?That's one of the styles of influence. I wrote "viatnamese ma's" cause I couldn't remember how to spell it.But yeah, its about 1/7th of the system. Maybe less. Most nights prolly resemble a shotokan class. The other styles seem to be integrated into that. Our hand tecniques are cross, jab, etc. We learn basic judo takedowns. Sometimes we do groundwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 do you do all the aerial techniques that vovinam does? https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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