Help with Triangle defense

[Scorcho]

Hey!

I have been studying TJJ for 3 years at college, and have started going to a Vale Tudo club while I am at home over the summer. Though my ground game is pretty good, I am having some trouble getting out of the triangle.

The defenses I know are to keep the arm that is "in" the triangle on the same side as its shoulder (ie, not allow my opponent to pull it to the other side), but this is more of a stalling tactic, and does not get me out of the choke. Any advice on how to get out of the triangle no gi?

Thanks!

[Fat Donkey]

Yeah Man, just had an awesome Roy Harris seminar where we learned about that. It comes in three stages of defense against the tri. Begining of tri, half sunk and fully sunk. The first bis when the opp, is just starting to close the tri on u. Turn your body, using your shoulder and arm to twist free by pushing on his leg and aim for a side mount. The second is it's half sunk in, place your elbow into the pit of the stomach with the trapped hand while your free hand reaches across and grabs the oppo's far hip, this stops it from sinking in, then push your body up to stack them, aim to place both hands on the side of their head as this will place the maximum weight on them. The third is the "Superman", the tri has been sunk in so u got nothing to lose, drive forward hard , both hands out like supe and try to roll right over them. Hope this helps.

[Scorcho]

Thanks man! Will try all that out.

[TJS]

posture the best way is to keep looking up before it gets really sunk in...I have a few ways of defending them but i admit im not the best at getting out of them.

[elbows_and_knees]

Yeah Man, just had an awesome Roy Harris seminar where we learned about that. It comes in three stages of defense against the tri. Begining of tri, half sunk and fully sunk. The first bis when the opp, is just starting to close the tri on u. Turn your body, using your shoulder and arm to twist free by pushing on his leg and aim for a side mount. The second is it's half sunk in, place your elbow into the pit of the stomach with the trapped hand while your free hand reaches across and grabs the oppo's far hip, this stops it from sinking in, then push your body up to stack them, aim to place both hands on the side of their head as this will place the maximum weight on them. The third is the "Superman", the tri has been sunk in so u got nothing to lose, drive forward hard , both hands out like supe and try to roll right over them. Hope this helps.

I knew of the first two, but have never seen the third - I will try that one.

[BJJ is 1]

when i feel the opponent starts to aply the triangle try toget the other arm out aswell and go to sidemount

[SubGrappler]

posture the best way is to keep looking up before it gets really sunk in...

Agreed- Posture is the best way to avoid a triangle once your opponent attempts it. Simply look up towards the ceiling and arch your back as much as possible to avoid the triangle. This will be easier as well if you can keep your hips close to your opponents.

[JoeSchmo]

what we learned to do is put the knee on the same side as the arm that is trapped into our opponents butt and posture up. it also helps to use the arm thats trapped to pull down on the knee that is crossing over the opponents foot to add some leverage and to make sure you dont get caught in a triangle/armbar. also when you are doing the thing when you tuck in your arm around the opponents waist be careful of the omoplata and be ready to try and hop over him before he sits up. i hope this helps good luck.

[Adonis]

How do you get caught in the triangle postion in the first place. does he drive one of your arms between his legs and starts to work for the triangle on you? do you get caught doing the one arm under guard pass? any way if he has the triangle on you.

The arm you have trapped put your elbow on of the same arm that is trapped into his stomach and put the hand on the knee pushing on the knee with the same arm. With the other arm go around and grab his knee and then stand up and forward driving yoru weight forward to stack them. turn your hips and weight pulling and pushing on the knee. pluswhile your stacking twist your hips to the side where your hands are pulling and pushing on the knee. Will help free the knee.

There are other counters. Best is tokeep posture though.

[CagedWarrior]

Well, you can stack him heavily and prevent his hips from arching into you, but you still want to posture up because the choke comes from him pulling you down. The arm that's in's elbow can be pushed into his stomache (kind of like when you put your hands on the guys belt for a guard pass) also, to prevent him from pulling you down. (Curl your bicep, don't let him pull that arm all the way across his own body.)

If it's NHB rules, use your other arm to (carefully, so not to become unbalanced and fall over) lay some shots into his ribs and loosen him up. You might also be able to stand up completely and drop him on his back- that will definitely make him weak for a second at least.

Truth is though, once it's sunk in and he has his foot in the crook of his leg, you're pretty screwed.