self defense for preachers

[elbows_and_knees]

I completely understand his point. Not all preachers are old though. Most of the ones that I know are younger than 50. The ones that are 'too weak' need to invest in something else - if not a gun, then something less lethal, like a stun gun. Either way, "self defense for preachers" would be a joke. If he's too weak for training, what would he teach him?

I'm not catholic, but If I'm not mistaken, they have have like 7 extra books in their bible - but the others are the same. I'm not sure whether or not the scriptures are the same, though.

Also, IME, the term preacher is generall associated with baptists and other branches, whereas catholics generally use the term priest.

[TSDforChrist]

Here's a monkey wrench for what everyone is thinking - I am a 4th Dan in Tang Soo Do, was most recently a youth pastor, teach martial arts through a church and I'm in college studying to be an international missionary for the Southern Baptists. I'm even able to be a preacher, if a church wants me. And as for the old thing, I'm 20 (for those of you doing math, 4th Dan at 20, yes I got my 1st far too young, but I KNEW the technique, and if you really question it, come train with me ). Offer a general self-defense class, call those churches and preachers, back it up with some biblical texts (the examples of David and Abraham (he chased four armies with 318 men...) are good, turning the other cheek it talking about insult not attack, and there's a good verse in 2 Timothy about defending the family - Ill look it up later), encourage them to come. Teach awareness, situational avoidance, not acting like a victim, and the most brutal, effective things you can think of - and emphasize that your wallet is not worth your life.

Oh, and yeah, the Catholics include the 7 books of the Apocrypha, which most Protestants don't accept, but they are all in the Old Testament, and there's no big doctrinal difference in there.

In Christ,

Phil Stewart

[kchenault]

Nice my Brother! If you lived in Kansas, I'd train with you. You should check out my article on the forum and tell me what you think. Always want another Christian's point of view.

[Sam]

I was actually talking about interpretation of the bible.... literal versus sub-textual...... when i mentioned catholicism

[Drithen]

I'm a long practicing Catholic, the only real difference in the bible translation we use are the extra books in the old testament mentioned above.

[Sam]

fair enough my bad... as far as i have been taught - the 2 difference were over a literal interpretation [catholicism] and a sub-textual one [protestantism].

But like i said my bad if i was wrong

[kchenault]

You'll find Sam that a literal interpretation is what most fundamentalists stick to. Symbolism is what I would call the other outlook. Both happen in the bible. Symbolism generally found in prophecy. Hence a "crystal sea" is probably not really made of crystal, but means moer likely that the water is the purest form that God created. We digress from the original thread though.

Back to topic, pastors, like anyone else should learn to defend themselves but not be dumb enough to think they can beat a bullet.

[elbows_and_knees]

Here's a monkey wrench for what everyone is thinking - I am a 4th Dan in Tang Soo Do, was most recently a youth pastor, teach martial arts through a church and I'm in college studying to be an international missionary for the Southern Baptists. I'm even able to be a preacher, if a church wants me. And as for the old thing, I'm 20 (for those of you doing math, 4th Dan at 20, yes I got my 1st far too young, but I KNEW the technique, and if you really question it, come train with me ). Offer a general self-defense class, call those churches and preachers, back it up with some biblical texts (the examples of David and Abraham (he chased four armies with 318 men...) are good, turning the other cheek it talking about insult not attack, and there's a good verse in 2 Timothy about defending the family - Ill look it up later), encourage them to come. Teach awareness, situational avoidance, not acting like a victim, and the most brutal, effective things you can think of - and emphasize that your wallet is not worth your life.

Oh, and yeah, the Catholics include the 7 books of the Apocrypha, which most Protestants don't accept, but they are all in the Old Testament, and there's no big doctrinal difference in there.

In Christ,

Phil Stewart

my church did the same. I'm 27, no preacher, but assist in the youth bible study classes. They have asked me to teach judo and muay thai classes, but require that I tie the training in with biblical lessons.

[glockmeister]

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They are not supposed to kill anyone ' date=' they are preachers , remeber ???

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There is noting non Christian about defending your life. The commandment properly translated is though shalt not commit murder.

Killing in defense of yourself opf loved ones is not a premeditated homicide.

In the old testament. in the book of Exodus, it was even written that shoudl a man find a thief breaking up his home and he killed him there was to be no blood taken for him. In other words, killing a burglar was justified.

[elbows_and_knees]

from the book of matthew:

"But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and a scrip, and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."