self defense for preachers

[elbows_and_knees]

this has been happening in my city as well. Here are some of my thoughts.

1. forget self defense for preachers - that would be a joke - like women's self defense. Train them just as you would train anyone else.

2. many of the churches in my area offer MA programs - why wouldn't a preacher join one?

3. there is a scripture in the bible that says something to the effect of if there is a man without a sword, let him sell his shirt and buy a sword. Also, look at the history of war in the bible - the tearing down of the walls of jericho for instance - they were fighting - with God on their side. What is the difference?

4. talk to them and ask them what they would think about offering a training program.

[Sam]

fair point - but i think he's more talkign about self-defense against a specific situation rather than just for preachers if you see what i mean....

but overall yeah i agree

[y2_sub]

Some of those preachers might be old and week , they can't train in a full martial art system .

[ivette_green]

if so... arent they supposed to be pacifists... or something?

There's two kinds of pacifism: Absolute---if you were going to kill them they wouldn't raise a hand to stop you.

Partial---they will use violence in self-defense. Not in war or anything like that, but one on one confrontation.

[Sam]

well theres pacifism.... and theres nonagression... but yeah i agree.

[ItalianMuayThai]

there has been a string of robberies, and violence agianst preachers in my city.

these idiots are walking right up in churches and starting fights, and robbing the whole church at gun point.

i was thinking about starting a self defense class for preachers , and also helping churches organize a security force from within the chuech.

any comments would be helpful, as well as criticism

Well if its at gunpoint let them take what they want, a few greenbacks isnt worth a life. But i would advise the self defense class, good idea. but as i said before, if they have a gun, your best bet is just to let them take what they want

[Sam]

yeah not worth messing a bout with a gun.....

[BJJ is 1]

OK I do not atend this church but a good friend (and former teacher) of mine who has practiced many different Martial Arts and has also fought in kick boxing and MMA events was aproched by a church in my town to start what they called a karate for kids program in an atempt to get kids more involved in church the program has grown alot and now many adults are taking it my friend is also giving private lessons to anybody who wants to take them

[Sam]

cool, theres quite al ot of stuff going on in churches around my area as well

[BJJ is 1]

Yea our town is prety small so its great to see Martial Arts start to make a comeback here