Bruce Lee's Training Programs

[fangshi]

Can't answer any of those questions but having read the book (years ago ) I do seem to recall that those weight lifting programs were just a small part of his training was . He did have a ton of other stuff in his workout programs as well .

[Hudson]

Oops.

I did forget to mention that Bruce was quite active past just these programs, these were just the core workouts mentioned in the book.

And for the record, I'd like to state that I just wanted to provide you with an interesting look at what Bruce Lee did in part to achieve his physique.

The conversation so far is quite interesting.

I thought I once read Bruce Lee had his punches and kicks timed. Maybe I can find this tomorrow when it's not so late.

[Bruce WillPete7]

Hmmm

How fast was Bruce Lee? Was his punches ever measured to accurately determine that actual speed and power?

Was his kicks ever measured to accurately determine that actual speed and power?

What contests did he enter to prove he was better than anyone else or are you just taking this on hearsay?

I am sure Bruce Lee was very skilled but how skilled can never be measured... the mans dead.

Yes he is dead, but he very well could have broken a few records with the speed of his punches and kicks, and taken a few contests aswell. I dont believe people are making reference to Bruce Lee in this thread to prove he was the best, and neither am i. There is no doubt he was highly skilled, and is/was a major influence on Martial Arts all around the world. He was a philosopher on the side as many fail to recognize, and his goal wasnt to break records and be "the best". Most of his views and philosophies show that he wants to be the best he can be, and wanted people to truly understand the concepts of martial arts, the whole self interpretation, and "ultimate self expression". On the other hand im sure he won a few tournaments and proved a few things, i wouldnt know because i havent read all of his books, but he did help to prove that a Jeet kune do punch is in fact stronger and more ravaging then a karate punch. Scientific experiments were conducted by Hayward Nishioka and the conclusions were made. (look it up for additional info, if you wish)

[AnonymousOne]

Hmmm

How fast was Bruce Lee? Was his punches ever measured to accurately determine that actual speed and power?

Was his kicks ever measured to accurately determine that actual speed and power?

What contests did he enter to prove he was better than anyone else or are you just taking this on hearsay?

I am sure Bruce Lee was very skilled but how skilled can never be measured... the mans dead.

Yes he is dead, but he very well could have broken a few records with the speed of his punches and kicks, and taken a few contests aswell. I dont believe people are making reference to Bruce Lee in this thread to prove he was the best, and neither am i. There is no doubt he was highly skilled, and is/was a major influence on Martial Arts all around the world. He was a philosopher on the side as many fail to recognize, and his goal wasnt to break records and be "the best". Most of his views and philosophies show that he wants to be the best he can be, and wanted people to truly understand the concepts of martial arts, the whole self interpretation, and "ultimate self expression". On the other hand im sure he won a few tournaments and proved a few things, i wouldnt know because i havent read all of his books, but he did help to prove that a Jeet kune do punch is in fact stronger and more ravaging then a karate punch. Scientific experiments were conducted by Hayward Nishioka and the conclusions were made. (look it up for additional info, if you wish)

I always have to giggle over the claims the KJD punch is faster than a Karate punch.

Fact is they were not comparing apples with apples. They compared a JKD jab against a Karate reverse punch (Gyaku Zuki). They never compared the JKD punch with a Karate jab (Kizami Zuki). So the comparison is moot.

People often over rate the skills and abilities of dead people... The martyr syndrome. I guess it gives people the warm fuzzies.

As for Lee's philosophies I dont hold to that world view point.

I agree he contributed a lot to martial arts to a certain degree. However much of what he proposed were ideas that he got from others. He didnt develop anything new, he just repackaged.

Most of his training methods came from boxing and he used fighting techniques from all over the place that "suited him".

I have most of his books and its interesting reading.

[Bruce WillPete7]

Ah, well at least your educated but can you elaborate on the "martyr syndrome" I dont think Bruce died to relieve anyone from sin or on purpose for any higher meaning (i could be wrong). Non the less people would still lolly-gag over him dead or alive the man was amazing.

How far can we really stretch the whole "he didn't create anything new he got it off a previous system". If you think about it everything is based off another thing. With the Shaolin it was off of animal forms and movements, im no expert but to some extent everything is relative boxing to kickboxing and wrestling to bjj.

I may be ranting, and im not trying to solidify the fact that Bruce was "god" b/c there are some narrow minded people when it comes to Bruce Lee and other things; but the man was great to be discrete and to say all he did was "repackage" a bunch of ideas and techniques is an understatement without careful analysis.

[Bleeding Lion]

id like to repackage some stuff and be that successful.

[Bruce WillPete7]

Well said bleeding lion, well said.

[Myastery Machine]

I do admire Bruce Lee, his skill and philosophie. However I never understood fully one of his ideas...he used to say that he didn't believe in rutines because that led you to nothing...However it is imposible to practice without rutines, even he had rutines and it is through rutines that you aquire perfection (speed, muscle memory, etc..)...

About the karate punch and JKD jab...how was the test made? was it only for speed? power?

I also heard or read (don't remeber) that Bruce taught a few secret win chun techniques to his closer pupils and told them not to propagate them..is that true?

If anybody could answer my comments it'll be great

[orion82698]

Aside from the JKD Vs. Karate speed, Bruce Lee was ripped, and a great martial artist. This is a good workout plan. Some of my muscles hurt just looking at some of the stretching. However.... times have changed, and so have MA. I would hope someone would train harder than this, but use this as a basis to build off of (My opinion)

[CagedWarrior]

but u say we have progressed, i would put my money on bruce having much more powerful kicks than this guy ross. and i would also put my money on bruce having much more speed, and being able to kick the * out of ross. so this leads me to believe that bruce's training was developed for exactly what he was aiming for, and was very successful, more so than Ross's

Probably true- but that's a matter of talent. Ross trains to box, and he's pretty damn good at it. Bruce trained for a no rules fight, and probably had greater inherent talent to begin with. Fact is, in Bruce's day we didn't know what we know now about training, and Ross probably knows best- especially for boxing.