octopic Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Thanks for the input, if a long term goal of mine was to be able to fight in different tournaments and be able to do some of those crazy jumps/flip kicks i see what would you guys reccomend?The Villari system is primarily focused on teaching effective self-defense. While some people do compete in tournaments, that is not the focus of the teaching. If that is your primary goal, you may want to look elsewhere.If you have any questions about the Villari system or the organization, feel free to PM me and I will try to answer your questions. Nidan -- Shaolin Kempo KarateLearn Shaolin Kempo Karate at Loudoun Academy of Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjamac Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Tone you should be thankful your only paying $80 a month you could have gone a villaris breakoff ussd and payed $175 a month for a year contract. https://www.shaolinkempo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerclaw2 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Tone go to https://www.villarisonline.com. GRANDMASTER VILLARI rules the east coast and is cheaper than most schools. He started out in boston 35 years ago and has alot of high ranking instructors working for him. You should be able to find a school close to you. Unlike ussd who does'nt have many masters compared to villaris. From what I found Ussd masters dont really teach in there schools much, just my opinon. Alot of ussd schools have 1st and 2nd dans runing there schools and evan brown and green belts. Villaris list all the chief instructors ranks on his web site https://www.villarisonline.com. USSD does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjamac Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 No master ever came to my school, villaris does have a lot of old high ranking masters that stuck with him when mattera left with a bunch of first degrees back in 88. I think mattera was just a district manager not a partner? https://www.shaolinkempo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerclaw2 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Ninjamac, I dont think matara was a partner just some district manager who got real greedy and wanted to keep all the money. It looks like mattara ranked himself to 9th degree? I have not found any info on where he got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octopic Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Ninjamac, I dont think matara was a partner just some district manager who got real greedy and wanted to keep all the money. It looks like mattara ranked himself to 9th degree? I have not found any info on where he got it.After leaving Villari, Materra went under Nick Cerio. I know that Cerio gave him at least an 8th. At some point, however, there was a falling out between Mattera and Cerio, and I don't know the current relationship between Cerio's organization and USSD (if any). Nidan -- Shaolin Kempo KarateLearn Shaolin Kempo Karate at Loudoun Academy of Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerclaw2 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Theres no relationship any more with cerio.GRAND MASTER NICK CERIO cut all ties with ussd and mattara in 1993, it might be because mattara ranked himself after cerios clinic with ussd in 1993? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNewton Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 i live in charlotte nc and am currently looking for a new dojo. 75 -85 a month seems to be the goign rate.i used to pay 50. i want to find a new one, but moneys so tight. seems like dojos would have more students if instructors could lower fees.good luck "The wise and successsful will always be met with violent opposition by mediocre minds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerclaw2 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 ANYBODY EVER TEACH FOR VILLARIS OR USSD AND IF YOU RAN A REAL SUCCESSFUL OR KNEW SOMEONE WHO RAN A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL? DID IT SEEM THAT THEY GOT PROMOTED FOR A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL NOT SKILL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octopic Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 ANYBODY EVER TEACH FOR VILLARIS OR USSD AND IF YOU RAN A REAL SUCCESSFUL OR KNEW SOMEONE WHO RAN A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL? DID IT SEEM THAT THEY GOT PROMOTED FOR A SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL NOT SKILL?I think most large orgs have some politics that go into promotion of the higher ranks (e.g. 5th Dan and above). I can say that everyone that I've seen make 5th dan or higher in the Villari org really earned their rank. Nidan -- Shaolin Kempo KarateLearn Shaolin Kempo Karate at Loudoun Academy of Martial Arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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