KarateChick06 Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 He was in the military 15 years back, but other than that has had no formal MA. Yes, I've watched several classes. They look fairly normal, except one of his master instructor's is kinda weird. He doesn't come around that often though, usually it's this other guy that teaches. Apparantly they give belts according to (what my friend says) what belt they just "think you should be." I guess that'd explain why he's skipped belts, too. Pre-Grading: That he/she is highly proficient in Kihon of all grades up to and including the target rank. That he/she has been able to consistantly demonstrate the use of these techniques in Full Contact Kumite (including strikes to the head). Grading: All Kata up to and including the target grade (in this case 2. Kyu - two steps to Black). 15x 2 minutes of Full Contact All Round Fighting (no protection, no breaks between rounds, new opponent each round). 5x 2 minutes of Ground/Grappling (no breaks, new opponent each round). Fitness Test: 20 pushups on fingers, 50 pushups on knuckles, 100 situps Anything else the grading instructors sees fit to ask for on the day. Wow, are those really the grading requirements for your dojo? Neither my requirements nor my friends are nearly so strict. Fighting in the test doesn't happen until BB degrees. DORKS HAVE MORE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Savvy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venrix Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Wow, are those really the grading requirements for your dojo? Neither my requirements nor my friends are nearly so strict. Fighting in the test doesn't happen until BB degrees.Yep. It's for real. ALL of our belt tests require full contact fighting (starting with just two fights for 10. Kyu). Our black belt grading is FAR more demanding.... -V- More than 200 pictures of Kyokushin technique. Kata outlined step by step. https://www.kyokushinbudokai.org (Homepage)Diary of a Full Contact Martial Artist (Diary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Can you say, McDojo! but hey, time is time. Belts keep up your pants... "One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say." - Will Durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarateChick06 Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 No, they close your gi. DORKS HAVE MORE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Savvy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaveli Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Can you say, McDojo! but hey, time is time. Belts keep up your pants...Yet another Bruce (Belts hold your trousers up) Lee mention.Belt systems are a very good way of indicating progression in Martial Arts.They (should) be a good indication of your level of profiency. For example, new members at my club are told to ask the higher belts if they have a question, because to reach each grade they would have had to meet a set criteria, qualifying them in their answer.Also, to reach the higher belt, it (should) show that the practitioner has spent a significant amount of time training in that martial art, and deserves respect for their commitment and contributions to the club.Unfortunately, some belt systems are abused for profit from gradings or out of false pride (wearing a grade that has not been achieved) etc...A good fighter is not necessarirly a good teacher or deserving of respect. How is a new student supposed to know if a ungraded instructor is any good?(I wouldn't want heart surgery from a surgeon without a medical degree!) The more I train, the more I see the errors in my technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruhiker Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Martial Arts is a journey. The color of the belt shouldn't mean much to a martial artist other than allowing one to get a visual of rank or honor for the members of the Dojo.One needs to look at themselves and ask why they are studying MA? Is it for the belt? Is it for self-defense? Is it for fitness reasons? Is it to be a better person? A Martial Artist needs to know what makes them arrive at the Dojo for every class. I have seen tournaments where a 2nd Dan was put against a brown belt and the brown belt wiped the floor with the 2nd Dan. The 2nd Dan was devastated. You could see their self-esteem escaping as the sails deflated.One must realize that there are many Dojo's out there with lots of different requirements for earning rank. Some instructors do not believe in giving anyone under the age of 16 a black belt and others think that a 10yr old can handle the responsibilities of black belt status.My suggestion is if you like your school continue along and concentrate on your training. Get the most out of your training and give 110% during your class time. Go home exhausted.Enjoy your journey....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaveli Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Belts don't matter too much to me. But the point was, doesn't it undermine the hard work of someone who spends 10 years of hard training at one club to reach 1st dan, when his mate could theorectically reach the same grade in 2 years at another club?I think it shows a lack of respect to allow people the same title when they have put in much less time and effort.Dan grades (or equivalents) should be a clear way of identifying someone of many years experience, who can ably demonstrate their chosen style and exhibits the maturity and honour i would expect from the higher grades at any club. The more I train, the more I see the errors in my technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uechi Kid Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 It took me a year and a half to get to brown. We have three levels of of brown. Brown is just befor black. Mcdojo?? sounds like it. More Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufrthanu Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Well first off...if it takes you 10 years to get to black belt you are doing something seriously wrong. And once again it's not just the school but the individual. Some of the worlds best fighters got their 1st dan in little time...not because they went to a mcdojo but because they practiced all the time. Long Live the Fighters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian_guy Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Time depends on school, usually it takes 4-5 years to get to BB (done a poll about that http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=11875&start=0) this if you start from no experience, ordinary training, no special natural gift. Given this condition brown belt in one year seem definitly suspect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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