Kamisama Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I was thinking about taking Shotokan and Jeet Kune Do at the same time.Would this be a bad idea?I would love to spend hours each day training to become a black belt. However, i don't believe such schools exist giving free lessons to people who want to devote their life to training and then teaching with free room and board. *doesn't want marines*Would a person tired out if they trained 3 hours every day each week alternating between these types of martial arts?What do you think would be the most hours a person should spend a day training? Rainy mondays feel like friday when you're smiling at me. I can feel the space between us collapsing our love is ever lasting... You're not alone. - Sanctus Real
taiji fajin Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I don't think training in two is a bad idea. I do it, and I believe it really helps. Both of my martial arts have improved because of the other one. As for the maximum limit every day, I wouldn't go overkill. Everything in moderation, and over time it will come. I would LOVE to have instruction 3 hours every day. If you have that opportunity, take it. But I wouldn't go 9 or 10 hours a day. Cut it off around 6 or so. Some people may (rightly) disagree with me, but that's around where I would set the limit.edit: I have trained for more than that long a day, even multiple days in a row, and it felt good. I just wouldn't keep up that much training EVERY day, for the rest of your life. Fetch Daddy's blue fright wig! I must be handsome when I unleash my rage.
Treebranch Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Personally taken 2 MA's is great because of all the training you get. You really get in shape when you are that active. I'm curious why you choose to study another striking art as opposed to a grappling art? Just curious. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Fu Man Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 If you have never trained in martial arts, I would hold off on cross training for a while. Learn the basics of one martial art before moving to another. However, if you have studied martial arts in the past, cross training should be okay. Shotokan and Jeet Kune Do have a lot of cross-over. Both martial arts primarily deal with stand up fighting (kicks, hand strikes, etc.), although Jeet Kune Do does have more grappling to my knowledge. In my humble opinion, if you wish to cross train, select a martial art that primarily focuses on grappling techniques, such as Judo, Jujitsu, Akido, etc.Regarding training, depending on your lifestyle and current physical condition, 3 hours of training per day can be quite hard on the body overtime. Plus, you need to let your body rest to prevent burning out. I would recommend at least 2 off days a week from training. Or, at least implement very light workouts on certain days. Basically, you do not want to over train because it will slow down your progress.When I studied Tae Kwon Do years ago, I practiced hard for 2 or more hours everyday for the first 3 years. Later, I became extremely ill (not training related, though) and was hospitalized. I had to stay away from training for one month. When I returned to training, I was shocked at how much more flexible and stronger I had become. Furthermore, my kicks and strikes were quicker and more powerful. In other words, my body was grossly overtrained and I needed the rest to recover from previous workouts.I hope this information helps, but it's all subjective.Ted
fangshi Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Personally I have studied two martial arts simaltaniuosly and have found it to be very rewarding . I have studied mainly interanal arts so my experiences are different that those of students who study Shotokan & JKD . At one point I was studying 6 hrs/day 6 days a week . As I was young I personally felt no determent to my health or development in either of the arts that I was studying . If fact I was told that there was a noticable improovement . In no way would I be able to pull that off now . Everyone has differing tolerances , both physical and mental when it comes to workload . Each person needs to gage that for themselves . May be better to start slow . Try a class while maintaining your regular schedule with the other art you are studying , and see how it goes. Good luck We are not so much individual beings as individual points of perception within one immense being.
vertigo Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Though I have never taken two martial arts at once, and don't really see myself doing that in the near future, I don't forsee any problems if you'd really want to do this and devote the time required to it. Now, 3 hours a day, every day, every week? That sounds like it would be difficult at the least. However, if you want to devote that much time and energy to learning two arts at once, then go for it. Just make sure to give it your all. Don't learn half of two arts "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
aefibird Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I'd say that if you want to study two arts at once then you'd be fine. I train in more than one MA at once.However, you should work up to training so much every day. Suddenly going from nothing (or not a lot of training) to 3+ hours per day won't do you any good. Make sure that you get plety of rest and that yout build up your daily training slowly. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
dtstiachi Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 There is a guy in my Tai Chi class that is a Black Belt in Karate (forgive me, I don't know what style). He stills goes to Karate class 3 times a week and comes to my Tai Chi class 2 times a week. He said Tai Chi is really helping him in his "hard style" martial arts. "The journey of a 1,000 miles starts with but a single step."
AnonymousOne Posted April 3, 2005 Posted April 3, 2005 3 hours daily training is not unreasonable. It all depends on your physical condition.I have trained 3 hours per day for years. This includes early morning running/training and late afternoon or evening Karate training or other types of training.You have to build your body for peak performance. You must, I mean must, buy this training manual, study it and apply it and if you build the training outlaid into your current training schedule you will soon rise to the top.http://www.warriorforce.com/warriorfitness.html"This bodyweight exercise program will blast your strength and endurance to new levels. This book is loaded with intense routines that do not require equipment. These routines are guaranteed to challenge the most elite athletes. You will not find a more complete bodyweight exercise program".The book was written for boxers, MMA's and Martial artists. Its top notch stuff!!As for studying two martial arts I think its a bad idea. Pick one and then set this as your skills training schedule and spend the rest of the time following the program in that book. Of paramount important to the martial artist, apart from actual MA skills is:Proper nutritionAnaerobic endurance trainingAerobic endurance trainingSpeed trainingStrength trainingExplosive power trainingBalance training (often over looked)Flexibilty trainingAgility trainingProper restTo have a balanced training programme you would not have time to study two MA schools.For all the a Martial Artist's needs, one style/school is suffice. Become a Master of One, rather than a "jack of all trades".Some seem to think that one style is not enough. That's a crock. Utterly master everything within one style then you "might" be qualified to review that position. Today people dont seek mastery, they seek a quick fix and there isn't one.With 3 hours training a day, you will approaching high calibre technique and power. Very soon you will find training at a school extremely easy and in some cases maybe even limiting.I train about 21 hours per week and have maintained this for about 15 years or so. As for my actual Karate skills training schedule, I do about 10-12 hours per week. The rest are all exercises of varying kinds to develop my needs as listed above. Everything I do apart from MA skills is directed at developing my MA skills. Properly done supplementary exercises have a truly profound, deep-seated and intense effect on the MA-ists capabilities.Training in a martial alone is good, but if you are seeking super performance for what ever reason, maybe for contest, maybe for street fighting or maybe just for the hell of it (as n my case), then you need a very intense physical program.This is how I see it after 41 years of training and of course I submit this opinion with a qualification that this is my humble opinion 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
Goju_boi Posted April 3, 2005 Posted April 3, 2005 If u want to train in 2 martial arts y don't u train one style on some days and the other the rest of the days.Also like somebody mentioned y don't u pick a style that complements your other style?Like having Shotokan and Ju-jutsu,just my opinion,Unless I guess u don't really like grappling https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
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