The big problem with street fights in my area is it's never, ever one on one. It's always gotta be the guy and a few of his toughest friends around here. So I would do pretty much anything in my power to avoid a street fight.

Yeah, I hear he wants to take on Silva now. That's gonna be good.

I have never met a street fighter that works out like competent martial artist.

I have never met a street fighter that can punch at 48 feet per second, or can kick, block, and move their body in a similar capability.

I have never met a street fighter who has the reaction time capability of a competent martial artist.

How can someone honestly compare a trained person with an untrained person?

Might as well say someone who never runs, has a good chance against a sprinter.

There are martial artists and competent martial artists, do not mistake the two.

I have never met a street fighter that works out like competent martial artist.

I have never met a street fighter that can punch at 48 feet per second, or can kick, block, and move their body in a similar capability.

I have never met a street fighter who has the reaction time capability of a competent martial artist.

How can someone honestly compare a trained person with an untrained person?

Might as well say someone who never runs, has a good chance against a sprinter.

There are martial artists and competent martial artists, do not mistake the two.

Sure I agree with your logic and see what you are getting at. The thing is some people who have grown up fighting in the streets since childhood has real experience and not just training experience. These people fight on the street not in a dojo or ring and they might be a little mental. The intent in the ring is not to kill but to win, to be a sportsman not a thug. So I would say it is bad to under estimate anyone. Even if you are highly trained your confidence and pride can be used against you. Also, there are people who don't conventionally train to run, but run everyday and are fast or can run long distances. Some of these people are not interested in the sport, but possibly have more natural talent than most. Basically I'm saying that being cautious is safer than being overconfident.

There is no such thing as "natural talent in fighting".

Fighters are not born great, they are trained great.

So you are telling me there are no naturally talented people in general? So do you know anyone that has less training than you and somehow picks things up faster than most? Or is naturally faster and has better reflexes than you? I know and meet people like that all the time and I'm glad they are friendly towards me. There are people that just have a natural edge and if your not on your game that day it may not go well for you. If you want to claim no untrained fighter has beat the holy crud out of someone trained you are living in denial. Never underestimate anyone, period.

Properly trained = competent

Untrained = incompetent

Period

The more that you train, the better the odds are in your favor but nothing is guaranteed. I agree with Treebranch "Never underestimate anyone".

Answer to topic question:

Yes.

Properly trained = competent

Untrained = incompetent

Period

Wow. That's pretty arrogant of you. I can tell you for a fact that my uncle, comepletely untrained, has beaten a karate black belt in a one-one-one unarmed fight. Not just some guy claiming a black belt, a man who was known for being very good at the art. My uncle grew up a fighter, is a big guy, and is fast for his size. This doesn't mean he is proud of it, he actually admits to having a bit of a big mouth that gets him into trouble. The point is, training isn't everything. There are an infinite number of variables involved in fighting.