fallen_milkman Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 The big problem with street fights in my area is it's never, ever one on one. It's always gotta be the guy and a few of his toughest friends around here. So I would do pretty much anything in my power to avoid a street fight. 36 styles of danger
Treebranch Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 Yeah, I hear he wants to take on Silva now. That's gonna be good. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
AnonymousOne Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 I have never met a street fighter that works out like competent martial artist.I have never met a street fighter that can punch at 48 feet per second, or can kick, block, and move their body in a similar capability.I have never met a street fighter who has the reaction time capability of a competent martial artist.How can someone honestly compare a trained person with an untrained person?Might as well say someone who never runs, has a good chance against a sprinter.There are martial artists and competent martial artists, do not mistake the two. 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
Treebranch Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 I have never met a street fighter that works out like competent martial artist.I have never met a street fighter that can punch at 48 feet per second, or can kick, block, and move their body in a similar capability.I have never met a street fighter who has the reaction time capability of a competent martial artist.How can someone honestly compare a trained person with an untrained person?Might as well say someone who never runs, has a good chance against a sprinter.There are martial artists and competent martial artists, do not mistake the two.Sure I agree with your logic and see what you are getting at. The thing is some people who have grown up fighting in the streets since childhood has real experience and not just training experience. These people fight on the street not in a dojo or ring and they might be a little mental. The intent in the ring is not to kill but to win, to be a sportsman not a thug. So I would say it is bad to under estimate anyone. Even if you are highly trained your confidence and pride can be used against you. Also, there are people who don't conventionally train to run, but run everyday and are fast or can run long distances. Some of these people are not interested in the sport, but possibly have more natural talent than most. Basically I'm saying that being cautious is safer than being overconfident. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
AnonymousOne Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 There is no such thing as "natural talent in fighting".Fighters are not born great, they are trained great. 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
Treebranch Posted April 24, 2005 Posted April 24, 2005 So you are telling me there are no naturally talented people in general? So do you know anyone that has less training than you and somehow picks things up faster than most? Or is naturally faster and has better reflexes than you? I know and meet people like that all the time and I'm glad they are friendly towards me. There are people that just have a natural edge and if your not on your game that day it may not go well for you. If you want to claim no untrained fighter has beat the holy crud out of someone trained you are living in denial. Never underestimate anyone, period. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
AnonymousOne Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Properly trained = competentUntrained = incompetentPeriod 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
pineapple Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 The more that you train, the better the odds are in your favor but nothing is guaranteed. I agree with Treebranch "Never underestimate anyone". What works works
Martial_Artist Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Answer to topic question:Yes. "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein
fallen_milkman Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Properly trained = competentUntrained = incompetentPeriod Wow. That's pretty arrogant of you. I can tell you for a fact that my uncle, comepletely untrained, has beaten a karate black belt in a one-one-one unarmed fight. Not just some guy claiming a black belt, a man who was known for being very good at the art. My uncle grew up a fighter, is a big guy, and is fast for his size. This doesn't mean he is proud of it, he actually admits to having a bit of a big mouth that gets him into trouble. The point is, training isn't everything. There are an infinite number of variables involved in fighting. 36 styles of danger
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