jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 12, 2003 Posted January 12, 2003 unless you can do it well and recover don't do it all, practice makes perfect, i have had some bad experiences using spin kicks so i just abandonned them and by doing so, i never exposed my back to my opponent "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
iolair Posted January 12, 2003 Posted January 12, 2003 As policy, I never turn my back on an opponent - not even momentarily as part of a technique. (of course with multiple attackers, there's not necessarily a choice). I wouldn't dissuade someone from trying it in sparring though - after all sparring is a "safe" environment, and a good place to try things out and see if you can get away with them. If you think you're good, you might like to challenge your sparring partner - tell them you're going to try a couple of spin kicks during the session and they should try and grab your back while you're doing them... Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
Kensai Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 I think having your back turned in some cases especially Judo throws (ei Tai Otoshi) does give you a great advantage in leverage. If you get is right, then it will pay off, if you dont, then you might be dead. I dont like my choices.
ZeRo Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 in judo alot if not most throws are done with your back to the opponent. this is a valid point but not if your opponent has any sparring knowledge. i dont think you could do a good judo throw if your opponent is being aggressive i.e punching/kicking. but hay thats a completly different topic.
Kensai Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 oh Mikey Mikey Mikey. I disagree. But like you said, thats a different topic.
iolair Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 I think having your back turned in some cases especially Judo throws (ei Tai Otoshi) does give you a great advantage in leverage. If you get is right, then it will pay off, if you dont, then you might be dead. I dont like my choices. Somehow in my mind I've never thought of this as turning my back on the opponent... strange mind. But, at the distance you do a turn in, they should be too close to be able to hit you anyway, and it should be too quick for them to do anything else. Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
hermanchauw Posted February 26, 2003 Posted February 26, 2003 Never eer show ur back to the opponent, especially in inverted moves like capoeira. If u don't know where or what the opponent is doing, one hit and u can have a nasty fall. No ginga, no capoeiraNo berimbau, no capoeiraNo roda, no capoeira
iolair Posted February 26, 2003 Posted February 26, 2003 It seems to boil down to ... only turn your back on an opponent while doing a technique if they're inexperienced and slow. But surely if they are inexperienced and slow, you can deal with them more efficiently using more conventional techniques anyway.... Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
rb Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 This must be a standard lesson in karate. The problem with spining techniques is that while many people can excute them with a good degree of competence, they still remain ignorant of their correct application.
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 i learned the hard way , i did a spinning crescent kick onece and got nailed in the back with a side-kick ,that was a bad enough experience for me to give up spinning kicks and i guess theres a situation for everything though "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
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