eating disorders

[Kit]

I have a question regarding a friend of mine. I'm pretty sure she has an eating disorder and i'm not sure how to approach her on it. The things that have tipped me off is that she is obsessed about her weight, she feels guilty about eating and she will skip meals on a regular basis. What should i do? Let me know, i'm pretty worried about her. Thanks

[CloudDragon]

Being a nurse working on a psych unit, I think I can help you with this one.

 

If you have taken the time to post this on a discussion board you are probably right. Talk to her and make sure that she understands that you want to help her and get her to a counselor. Don't try and handle this on your own, as eating disorders are usually an outcropping of other mental issues. Get your friend to help before it's too late!

[krzychicano]

Talk to her and make sure you listen as she talks and dont try to offer all kinds of advice to start out with because she might take offense to that and possibly make her think that you feel sorry for her and may that may not bold over well depending on her. I would let her talk and get it all out and then casually possibly offer some help on the situation.

[AnonymousOne]

eating disorder hmmmm

 

Personally I dont think there is such a thing. To me thats a cop out for laziness and indulgence and many make profit telling people its some kind of illness.

 

People are over weight because they decide to be. Its all a matter of volition. People choose what they stuff in their mouth and nothing fattening accidently falls into peoples mouths.

 

You can choose to eat properly and you can choose to exercise and you can choose to reject both.

 

Modern psycho babble is just justification for excuseology

 

Some people reject that and cling to excuses and stay fat

[CloudDragon]

AnonymousOne, I believe that Kit was talking about the type of disorder where you don't eat enough.

 

As far as your thoughts on people who are fat, I suggest that you read up on hypothyroidism and expand your knoweldge. Sure, everyone who is overweight does not suffer from this, but be sure that you get some facts before you make sweeping generalizations.

 

And on a personal note, I know people like you. They tell people that they are fat because they eat too much. They tell people that suicidal feelings and hallucinations are their fault. They tell people that if they take medications for these problems they are weak and lazy.

 

I wonder where these people were when I cut a person down from a noose in their bedroom. I wonder where these people were when I helped the coroner scoop up brain and skull matter after these "lazy" people blew their heads off. I wonder where these people were when their families were distraught at the loss of their loved one.

 

"Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself"

[AnonymousOne]

I apologise but I wasnt judging any particular individual. However that is what I believe. I personally believe that being overweight is a choice.

 

People committing suicide over it doesnt change the fact that they did not change their choices.

 

Perhaps suicide was easier than facing the reality of a lack of self discipline. But that lack of self discipline isnt just weight. People lack this in all kinds of things like smoking, drinking, drugs, budgeting and on and on it goes.

 

We all need to face facts at times. We are what we choose to be.

 

I noticed you quoted the Bible. Did you want to get into a Theological debate concerning Biblical principles to repent of gluttony?

[CloudDragon]

Obivously you didn't read up on hypothyroidism as I suggested. I encourage you to do this, as I feel that it will illuminate the point I was trying to make.

 

Now reading your thoughts about suicide, I suggest that you educate yourself on it as well. The reasoning isn't "I'm fat and too lazy to change it, so I'll just kill myself".

 

The point that I was trying to make is that being overweight or having an eating disorder isn't always about choices. My other point was; people who believe that a person can be catagorized in a set of standards of their own design, with little or no research into their standards they are catagorizing others with, are a potential danger to others.

 

As far as a debate about gluttony and the theological principles thereof, read up on the things I listed above and if you still want to debate, I'd be glad to.

 

Thank you for a thoughtful reply, I look forward to discussing this, and other topics with you in the future.

[AnonymousOne]

I am sorry but I do not believe in modern day psycho babble which is an art called Excuseology.

 

Therefore to return to some claimed experts socalled science analysis is a waste of my time.

 

These days they use this art to make excuses for all sorts of things. I fully expect them to find a scientific claim to excuse pedophiles, murderers and thieves and God knows what else.

 

That is the sad state of this human race. "Its not my fault the devil made me do it"...

 

Well the devil is in the socalled science

[ladyj]

"Don’t worry about what others think. The second you do, you hand over control of your emotions to someone else to play with. Who is in control of your life? You or another human being?"

 

Remember that alot of people do not realize that they are in control of their emotions, which can lead to eating disorders. They feel their weight it is the only thing they can control and alot of times it innocently turns into a disorder. These people do not need to be treated as if they are less or if their problem is not real or only in their mind, they need to be nurtured and given constructive criticism in small doses. They have to be taught that they are in control of their life.

[CloudDragon]

AnonymousOne,

 

I cannot change you or the way that you think or your resistance to educating yourself on other peoples thoughts and ideas. Only you can do that.

 

However, I will say that hypothyridism is not "psycho babble", it is physiological, and has nothing to do with thoughts or emotion.

 

As far as "excuseology", that is the most obvious piece of psycobabble here. Your opinion shows no knowledge of psychiatry or the human response to weight disorders. By the way, far as I remember we weren't talking about murderers, it was about eating disorders.

 

Until you can reply with at least some reminant of knowledge about proven scientific fact about eating disorders, or overweight people, without inflammitory rhetoric I will not honor your responses with a reply.

 

"In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king"