senna_trem Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I always thought of hai as more of a kiai, but in some styles is it used in place of osu? I have heard people say they were agreeing with someone in karate and using "hai" to respond. I've figured out that osu means "to endure," but does hai have a meaning also? If someone who knows kyokushin could help me out that would be great. And, if a kyokushin person does sound off about this topic, could you tell me what to do if I'm ever late for a class? My worst nightmare is to be late and have no clue what to do . What to say, do, etc. Thanks a bunch. "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mu Ryuk Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 "Hai" is Japanese for "Yes". As far as I know, it's just coincidence that a lot of people (such as myself) Kiai like that. I guess it's just an easy sound to make. "Osu" is...well, I'm not really the person to know about that. Sorry. Passion transcends pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Like Mu Ryuk said, hai means yes. In our school we generally say hai rather than osu. Osu is taken from the words osae(to press or keep) and shinobu(patience). So when you say osu what you basically mean is "I am keeping my patience and doing my best to understand, to train, and to work with you." When your late to class the general rule is: If you arrive during warm-ups, perform a standing bow and join to class. or... If training has already started, kneel in seiza at the edge of the floor and wait for the instructor to invite you to join in. Then perform a seated bow, and join the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotokanKid Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 hai means yes. In Japanese, if my mother asks me something, I say hai. It's supposed to be a quick word. "What we do in life, echoes in eternity.""We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostlySykanRyu Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Yep...most of my kias sound like "hai" as well. I wouldn't interchange "hai" and "osu"...is you replaced "osu" with "hai", that would be a bit rude wouldn't it? Considering that saying "osu" is a sign of respect and preserverance, wheras "hai" simply means yes. Then again I'm probably thinking into it too much To condemn the art of another is to condemn your own as well. We all have the same origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Orstrom Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 In my Aikido dojo we use 'Hai' when the sempai/sensei address us. In my Kyokushinkai dojo we use osu. As far as I understand the 'hai' is more of a respectful 'yes sir' than just yes. I have no problem with people using both. The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence,but in the mastery of his passions.Alfred, Lord Tennyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I wouldn't interchange "hai" and "osu"...is you replaced "osu" with "hai", that would be a bit rude wouldn't it? Considering that saying "osu" is a sign of respect and preserverance, wheras "hai" simply means yes. Different things are acceptable in different schools. Saying hai is still considered more respectful than simply saying 'yes' in english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
informer Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Osu is not in the Japanese dictionary by this I dont mean an English to japanese translation dictionary I mean it is not a real Japanese word. it is a slang...like saying "YO WHAT UP DAWG" or "Wasssssssuuuuup" or "Fo Shizzle Ma Nizzle" Ask any Japanese person who does not do martial arts what "Ous" means and they will not know! It is SLANG which in many cases would make it rude! http://www.mixedmartialartsexpo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1kickKO Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Yeah everybody's right, Hai is Japanese for Yes. This is also how my Kiai sounds like...why? no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamesu Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 the use of Osu in Kyokushin dojo is one of the styles major perspectives. Osu represents the spirit of Kyokushin extreme perserverance, patience, tolerance, and all things embedded within the Dojo-kun, the use of the word OSU as a reply to a senior within the kyokushin dojo is to say that; "i am in spirit." the Kyokushin dojo OSU is a derivative of 'Oshi shinobu' whereas the crude, slanglike japanese word Osu, is derived from the term; 'Ohayo gozaimasu' If it is at all possible to express the philosophy of Kyokushin Karate in a single word, then "OSU" would be that word. not my words, but quite adequite. as for turning up late to class, at our dojo its much like cross said, kneel in seiza untill instructed to join in class. Osu.[/b] "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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