Grappling in Karate

[Shorin Ryuu]

I may have to check out that book you mentioned, P.A.L., as I haven't read that one yet. It does sound interesting.

 

I would say that it would take a long time to master these techniques, like anything, but I don't believe it necessarily takes a long time to do these well. Certainly the pressure points would take a little while to be able to hit consistently, but a lot of the other manipulations are not as complicated in terms of theory.

 

Resources that I have on more of the grappling aspect that I have found useful are The Bubishi (I have the George Alexander version, as far as I can tell, the McCarthy version is good too), several books by George Dillman (There is controversy surrounding how he got this knowledge, and I think some of the stuff he proclaims nowadays is a bit over the edge. However, he has done a lot of good scientific research on the subject.), some videos by George Dillman, and Comprehensive Applications of Shaolin Chin Na by Dr. Yang.

 

There is also a video of Oyata (Ryukyu Kenpo) doing kata and demonstrating grappling applications of almost every single sequence. He is quite impressive. I'm not sure if it's in stores anymore though.

 

The ones I use the most often are this video and the Bubishi.

 

However, most of my practice has been in class or training with students outside of class. You can learn good academic knowledge elsewhere, but you really have to work with people to get this stuff down.

[kzshin]

In Shindo Jinen Ryu, we do have lots of grappling techniques.

[P.A.L]

kzshin, I've seen a picture of Sensei Konishi performing a Tuite technique on sensei Motobu (the one that you get a hold of wrist and attack the neck from underneath of the arm),historically interesting picture.

[pineapple]

Shorin Ryuu,

 

I ordered a video about Bubishi from George Alexander.

 

Thanks for the info!!

[Shorin Ryuu]

No problem. I'd recommend getting the book as well though.

[kzshin]

WOW, where did you see the pic, PAL??

 

I am planning to order the Shindo Jenin Ryu Video, and learn more about the history of the style I am learning.

 

by the way, Konishi sensei studied under founder of Akido for a while, so I think some of our grapping art is actually from Akido.

[pineapple]

I'd recommend getting the book as well

 

Maybe later, money's getting a little tight!

 

Thanks again.

[P.A.L]

kzshin, this picture is in the same book i wrote about, about the video I have it , not bad ,shows some good pictures and talk about sensei konishi's life then talks about Motobu and his fight with Russian boxer and what he thought about Fonnakushi (doesn't know karate). konishi's relation with Miagi and Mabuni. then it shows Naihanchi Shodan very close to okinawan styles and different from Shotokan Tekki. then it shows 3 Taisabaki katas by konishi's son (there are some mistake in performing or they changed the kata later I don't know but I was not impressed with his level of karate , actually a very high level karate-ka in shindo jinen I was talking to,confirmed this as well.

[kzshin]

That's right, PAL, there are some tensions between Funnakushi and Motobu, which sometime put Sensei Konishi in weird situation, cuz Sensei Konish trained with both individuals very closely. That 3 Taisabaki katas are Shindo Jinen Ryu's spicial kata, they ususally only teach people after black belt. I happend lucky enough to learn the 1st one Taisabaki shodan, however, I didn't master it yet.

 

I better go get that tape, sounds like it has alot of food info.

[italian_guy]

I agree with ehat has been said by the others okinawan karate martial artists... I can add that in my dojo we also practice ground fighting, I do not know if this is part of a standard goju ryu curriculum but this is also what we currently do.