SoonerJohn Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I remember seeing an interview with Mr. McMahon. He was talking about Ted Turner calling him and telling him he was getting into the wrestling business. McMahons response was, "Thats great, I'm in the entertainment business." Based on that, I'd say that he thinks its not a martial art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingyuan Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 You guys may have mistaken my question, what I was asking wasn't if WWE is real but rather do you consider those pro wrestling skills like body slam, powerbomb, German suplex......etc.... as a martial art skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dragon Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Powerbomb=Wrestling move Wrestling move=Wrestling Wrestling=Western Wrestling Western Wrestling=Western Arts Its not a martial art,but a form of fighting in my opinion. ''I know what your thinking.........did I shoot you 3 times? or did I shoot you 472 times?'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian_guy Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 No, it is not martial art, it is not even a martial sport (because it is obvious that it is staged) It is a martial entertainment, you can see it as a short action movie with no plot just fighing scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich67 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Leave out the word "martial" when you refer to it. I don't even consider it "martial" in the sense of the word. Martial means relating to war, or a characteristic of or benefitting a warrior. This is a term that related ina way to the samurai and their code of ethics when it came to warfare and their system of beliefs and honor. It is not a word to be used lightly. It is certainly not a word that can be used to describe moves in pro wrestling. These guys are entertainers, pure and simple. Guys like Shamrock may be warriors in their own right, but the pro wrestling events themselves and the whole training and techniques regime is stunt-oriented and in no way translates into anything martial or an art form. If you were to call this a martial art, then where do you draw the line? Would stuntmen in the movies be considered martial artists? Would you call actors and actresses martial artists if they threw some kicks and punches in the movies? I agree that it may be a form of fighting if it is applied in a street environment. And with the size of some of those guys I sure would be wary about tussling with them. Mixed Martial Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelito Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 let me think...smashing a chair on someone's head...yeah that is a preety good self defense move. pain is weakness leaving the body.fear is the mind killer, i will face my fear and let it pass threw me. from the movie "dune"i know kung fu...show me. from the movie "the matrix" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Actually I do mean pro wrestling as those in WWE. The strikes of the pro wrestling are completely fake and useless but some of it's grappling moves are really useful and effective. Effective moves of pro wrestling (I think) - Closeline - German suplex - Normal Bodyslam - Powerbomb (if you are strong enough that is) - Russian leg swing - T-bone suplex Completely useless moves - Chokeslam - FU (c'mon as if he's going to let you hold him up there) - F-5 - Vertical suplex "Not sure" moves - Rock bottom / book end - Stunner - Tombstone What do you guys think??Yes, most of the moves are standard wrestling, JJ, and Judo. The definition of martial arts is the study or application of any method of fighting, or system of fighting under one category. So, pro-wrestling, per some of its methods, can be a martial art. However, just the same as other sport competition, it is used for a entertainment venue. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dragon Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 remember folks,wrestling is not fake,its a rehersed routine >:] ''I know what your thinking.........did I shoot you 3 times? or did I shoot you 472 times?'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusan Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Look at the Kung Fu or Karate equivalent. Is Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon martial arts?I think It is the entertainment rehearsed version of martial arts performed by some pretty good martial artisits. Maybe wrestling is the same. There seems to be a lot of skill in not only executing the moves but also being dropped on your heads from six feet in the air. And for big guys they move pretty quickly. I don't think you get those skills from a bottle of steroids.I've never had a go at that activity so I would be reluctant to write it off as an inferior skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenteReligieuse Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 The older, female character in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is actually an ex ballet dancer, before she became an actor . Modern Wushu is just that, martial ballet. It's an art in the esthetic sense of the definition, but not when you consider art meaning "skill" (Martial Art = War skill) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now