young fighter Posted December 15, 2004 Posted December 15, 2004 It also depends on the karate style, because karate can be so many things. I believe a kyokushin fighter would knock a boxer to the ground, as the boxer would become passive and insecure when fighting bare-handed and with kicks. On the other hand, a boxer has more technique and skill with his punches, as kyokushin fighters focuses more on strength, since they only punch the body. Kyokushin also has very intense and hard training, as opposed to light contact karate styles. This means that the physical condition of the kyokushin might be better, as his willpower. If following K-1 rules, without the gloves, a kyokushin fighter would almost always win. With gloves, I don't know. One things for sure, kyokushin fighters has a much wider range in abilities than a boxer. Although, as you guys said before, it varies from individuals and training methods. 16 years old1. dan Kyokushin KarateNever underestimate your opponent!
italian_guy Posted December 15, 2004 Posted December 15, 2004 Kyokushin also has very intense and hard training, as opposed to light contact karate styles. This means that the physical condition of the kyokushin might be better, as his willpower. If following K-1 rules, without the gloves, a kyokushin fighter would almost always win. With gloves, I don't know. One things for sure, kyokushin fighters has a much wider range in abilities than a boxer. Although, as you guys said before, it varies from individuals and training methods. Your last statement is very true, a couple of weeks ago a kyokushin practitioner (although I don't know what her level was) came to our dojo (light contact karate style) to train and could not finish our strenght training exercise routine. I think that the trainig intensity is independent on the style and it is very dependent on the dojo.
VinnieDaChin Posted December 15, 2004 Posted December 15, 2004 you know, a lot of people say that karate has kicks and therefor has an edge with that. that can be true, but a lot of the time kicks get you into trouble. randy couture, top gun in ufc for those of you who dont know, doesnt throw kicks because he considers them to be just too dangerous. dont get me wrong, i love muay thai, the thai kick, and using it on people- but with a boxer's hands, just because theyre two weapons instead of however many, doesnt necessarily give him a disadvantage. id say sometimes, often in street fighting situations, it gives him an advantage.
Oopgrub Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 It all depends on the skill. I have taken out a boxer before, I have also taken out a karateka before. You can't just parry boxer's punches, you need to dodge them, you need especialy to keep your balance. roundhouse kicks will get you destroyed, front kicks and side kicks would work best. A Tae Kwon Do black belt who could kick hard and fast would have the best chance, if you just practice basic karate, you're screwed. Boxer would win, in my opinion. Their punches HURT. Ju JitsuKenpoPressure Point FightingCapoeira
SevenStar Posted January 10, 2005 Posted January 10, 2005 roundhouse kicks will get you destroyed low ones won't.on Do black belt who could kick hard and fast would have the best chance, if you just practice basic karate, you're screwed. WTF??
SevenStar Posted January 10, 2005 Posted January 10, 2005 but with a boxer's hands, just because theyre two weapons instead of however many, doesnt necessarily give him a disadvantage. id say sometimes, often in street fighting situations, it gives him an advantage. agreed.
Infrazael Posted January 10, 2005 Posted January 10, 2005 Normal Karateka vs. Boxer. --Boxer would win, hands down. Kyokushin Karateka vs. Boxer Now THAT would be interesting, as Kyokushin is pretty brutal.
VinnieDaChin Posted January 14, 2005 Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) A Tae Kwon Do black belt who could kick hard and fast would have the best chance no way- the thai kicks are the best you can get- believe me they hit the hardest. ive met maybe one tkd practitioner ever whos kicks id be afraid of... and if you stuck him against a thai boxer.. no contest. this debate is getting intresting yes, it really is. Edited January 16, 2005 by VinnieDaChin
KungFuLuvva Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 i'd go with boxing for sure, but like Infrazael said, kyokushin stands a good chance simply because they fight as much, i consider it a much higher regard than other karates. someone who was a good friend of mine is 2nd degree black belt in shotokan, his dad is an 8th dan GM, and he's been taking it all of his life. my other friend who was only in kyokoshin for only a couple of years, (same height, just a bit stronger) trashed him. boxing seems a more evolved... unpredictable way of fighting compared to conventional karate, the foot work makes all the difference. age:16style:wing chunDon't try to predict the outcome of a fight. just let nature take its course.
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