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I think most gains in karate (after the first year or so) are made gradually. You move up the hill and set yourself against the wall and push. And keep on pushing. Some days the wall moves a fraction of an inch. Some days it moves farther. Some days no matter how hard you push on the wall it will not move.

 

The rewards of making the wall move cannot be described. They are known only to the person doing the work. The satisfaction of doing the absolute best you can at class is known to many.

 

How odd it is to share an experience with so many people yet be unable to describe it.

 

 

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I stop. My body knows when it has had enough. There is no need to injure yourself. By the way, if you do injure yourself, you will have to take that time off of training in order to get better. Why not stay safe and keep training by listening to your body? Good luck and stay healthy and safe.

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Pain can be productive and pain can also be an indication of over training.

Too little or too much training is not good. You have to find that correct training level.

I feel, only by over training can one find the optimum level. Then you just tone it back a little. You have to experience both sides and every body is different.

I have to be careful. My enthusiasm and will makes me tend to over train. I have trained myself so hard at times, I have had to lay in bed for a whole week from muscle pain and sheer exhaustion. I was nearly hospitalised once.

But as I got older and more mature in the art, I have learnt what my person levels are.

Pain can be a friend but it can also be your worst nightmare.

I have seen many teachers who untrain and turn out poor students and I have also seen teachers that ignore over training and drive their students to unworkable levels.

Training a student so hard that they have to rest for days or a week afterwards just doesnt make sense.

The best way to train is to train to your personal optimum level and often you will not be able to do that at a school

7th Dan Chidokai


A true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing

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I heard that pro separate there mind and thier body. Taking a way all the pain away. How do you do that?

My way is to trick my self into thinking that Pain is actually pleasure and I love it.

[ This Message was edited by: MuayTB1 on 2002-01-05 09:21 ]

i bet u dont have to trick yourself i bet you get off on the pain you dirty sod :P

I love pushing myself till i reach MMF and i cant go on any ruther or sprinting until i cant stand up any more. but i need a training partner for that either for me motivate them and race them or for them to shout and motivate me, i cant seem to motivate my self at the moment :-?

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I try to interpret the pain I am feeling. I have found that the pain I feel when I am trying for a new stretching max or the like is different than the pain of an injury. Injury pain makes me stop to evaluate. (Doesn't mean I'm smart enough to adequately rest the injury, though!) Exertion 'pain' makes me want to train harder so that the "pain boundary" takes longer to get to.

Every timely action will bring results ... Without difficulty. Every untimely endeavor will fail ... If the moment is premature or if the right moment is missed. - The Tree Poem

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The trick is not minding. :karate:

We are not so much individual beings as individual points of perception within one immense being.

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Just push past the pain and give your best throughout your training session. After a while you'll progress so working out at your former level will be nothing, then when you're their just turn things up a notch, and keep repeating the process infinitely.

It's just like weight training set goals, work in your goals and mentally note how you feel, and what kind of limits you have in that time frame. In time what you're doing now will result in little to no discomfort.

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Well, I think there's two different types to "pain". One is indeed, pain. It hurts because your injured. The other is "hurt". You're sore from training. Hurt is good, pain is bad. This is how Sensei tells us, anyway, and I'm still alive and uninjured (relatively, anyway.) I deal with pain by stopping what causes the pain, unless I can't. (Nasty night, first time with wrist techniques, advanced partner who has no patience and a record of being rather brutal vs. newly made yellow belt me. I stood no chance.) I deal with hurt by mentally abusing myself. Or, taking something Sensei said and abusing myself with that. Such as, most recently, he said anyone who couldn't stand still during stance training and wait for the next command was weak-minded. THAT is a direct assault to my precious ego. Heheh. Or, oddly enough, I'll start mentally saying one thing, over and over again. "Bacon and eggs, bacon and eggs"....very recent. I have yet to understand where it came from.

He who gains a victory over other men is strong; but he who gains a victory over himself is all powerful Lao-tsu

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If it hurts,just remember this quote"Pain is weakness leaving the body. :D :karate: :kaioken:

"YOU are your only opponent in Karate and life"


"Pain is weakness leaveing your body"


"There is no glory in practice,But,Without practice,There is no glory."


"You must always be prepared to defend yourself and your fellow man."

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