meditation

[dear john]

so here does............

 

for years i have done this and everytime i do it i feel way better afterwards.

 

you sit down in a reclined position(for some reason it doesnt work while lieing down or sitting straight up) make sure that it is relatively quiet and dark. stare off into the middle of no where. try not to have any thoughts. you can only think about your body and how it feels. your eyse must remain open even if you get tired. your eyse can not move either, if they move or if any part of you body moves then the process starts over. after a few minutes try to imagine a sinking feeling. your whole body should feel weighted. now imagine that you are looking into an empty space and this space you see is black, kinda like the universe but with no stars or anything. this is really all about relaxing. just let go, let everything in your life go and think about how relaxed and good you feel.

 

 

 

i never knew that this was a form of meditation until somebody told me so.

 

well have fun and tell me anything that you do to meditate, try mine see if it works, tell me what you get.

[47MartialMan]

Are you sitting in a Lotus or semi Lotus position?

[dear john]

i have never heard the term lotus before.

 

i assume it means that you are indian style w but only you have you feet on top of you thighs. if this is the case then no.

 

you are sitting in a reclined chair, with your legs extended.

 

i feel that i should explain the eye thing furthor..

 

when you sleep, your eyes focus out and the little things inside your eyes that pick up images no longer work.

 

if your eyes stay still not focused on anything, then they will eventually think that you are asleep and if dopne right everything you see basically goes black as night. if they move then they wake up.

 

i dont really know if the eyes fall asleep or not it just seems that everything goes black if they stay motionless for long enough.

[SaiFightsMS]

There is no one right, or right for everyone position to use for meditation.

[47MartialMan]

Sai,

 

Please expalin further

[White Warlock]

I believe, if i may assume, that Sai is referring to your query about the lotus position. The lotus position is not required in order to be able to meditate. For me, the lotus position is a tad painful, due to an infrequent lower back problem that causes the right side of my hip to be a tad bit too tight. I aim to be comfortable, so that i am not distracted. Being comfortable is not a prerequisite to being able to meditate, but it is preferable to being in pain.

 

Sitting in a sofa works just fine. The goal is not to be 'mystical' or to be 'macho.' The lotus position, in this day and age, tends to run with both those silly titles.

 

john, your approach seems to be working for you. one extra step... is to remove thought.

 

i.e., remove this, "and think about how relaxed and good you feel."

 

I noted my favored approach in another thread.

 

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=15545&highlight=

[47MartialMan]

Yes, comfortablility is the key. So why can't one meditate laying down?

[White Warlock]

for clarification, your question is, "for those of you who cannot meditate while laying down, why can't you?"

 

If they can't meditate while laying down, it's likely they don't know why they can't.

 

They can probably state what happens when they try, but... as to the reason why they can't, common sense would indicate it's because they don't know how to meditate while laying down.

[SaiFightsMS]

There are many forms of meditation and many purposes for meditation. Traditional meditation postures include seated, kneeling, and supine postures and many variations of each.

 

Postures used during meditation as well as the technique used to achieve a state of meditaion vary from culture to culture and religion to religion.

 

There is no reason why meditation while lying down cannot be done. As a matter of fact there are places it is taught to people while they are laying down flat on their backs.

 

And the rest of the discussion here that was removed was a pointless why back and forth between two posters that added nothing to the question raised in the thread.

[Sasori_Te]

I know several different qigong exercises that are done from a lying flat on your back position.