Radok Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Bruce Lee was at 8%. That gives you an idea at what ten is like. I am at 14, and I am ripped. There is no need to go below ten. If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 3% is the commonly accepted value (for males) as the minimum body fat level that is necessary in order to stay healthy. Few people get to this level, although wrestlers, boxers (I used to be one) and the like often pass this. It is not healthy to do so, as it is necessary to have the fat to pad internal organs (including the brain) and serves other functions to ensure proper workings of the body. pass 3%? I'm not sure about that one... I mean, contest body builders typically only diet down to 3-5 %, and even that is temporary. Unless you're an ectomorph, 3 % is extremely hard to maintain. I don't think anyone has 2%... I've known body builders who have gone past 3% (they've had test done). Like I said, I have had tests done that establish my average normal body-fat composition to be a little over 3% when I wasn't cutting weight or anything like that at all and then lost some fat (no muscle). Like I said, it isn't healthy. One guy on the boxing team started to pee blood, so we figured he was a little too low and made him drop training for a while....The bodybuilder I knew was always some sort of an unhealthy color...quite disconcerting to talk with him sometimes... Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChosen Posted August 17, 2004 Author Share Posted August 17, 2004 Bruce Lee was at 8%. That gives you an idea at what ten is like. I am at 14, and I am ripped. There is no need to go below ten. I have a hard time believing Bruce Lee was at 8%, every picture I have ever seen shows the man as cut and muscled as I thought was possible. I mean no disrespect Radol but at 14% are you really ripped or are just naturally thin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radok Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 No, I am 150 pounds with like 8 pack abs, so I'm saying 14% is pretty low. Bruce Lee was at 8%, and he was ripped to the bone. If Shorin Ryuu is at three, he is way beyond anorexic. Are you sure your at 3 percent? I am at 14 according to electrical impedment tests. What kind of test did you do? If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Caliper, the water tank thing and for some reason, I can't remember the other one... 14% isn't exceptionally low. 7-10 percent is considered prime for athletes, I believe. Many of my friends back in college fit in this category and they weren't especially cut, but they were in shape. Where did that stat for Bruce Lee come from? 8% sounds high... But yes, I did have the tests done at the Human Performance Laboratory (either in New Orleans or Baton Rouge...we were there for an indoor track meet in high school and we stopped by there since it was a famous professional athlete training place). I also had tests done in college as well (most recent one last year) and it didn't change much (a few tenths of a percent). No, I am quite un-anorexic. I mentioned I had low body fat because I work out a whole lot, and perhaps more primarily, because I was born three months premature. But yes, between 3 and 3 1/2 percent is what it is. There is a lot of fat that even very muscular people have...I apparently don't (and I consider myself pretty toned, but in no way a hulking menace!) for the above reasons. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 There is no way Bruce Lee could be at 8%... I might believe that during certain time periods, but did you ever see Enter the Dragon? That's when he was most cut from the extra heat and intensity in Hong Kong. At 8% you'll have that 6-pack (Assuming you want to cut to look good). The game of chess is much like a swordfight; you must think before you move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radok Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 That's what I'm saying! 8 percent is extremely low. If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckykboxer Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 im surprised i missed this one.. Bruce Lee had to be in the 5% range definitely lower then 8% IMO from my first hand knowledge the lowest my body fat has ever been was 8%. It was ridiculous how low i had to keep my carbs and how much cardio i had to do to maintain this. most professional bodybuilders will peak at 3-4% bodyfat for their contests, and even that is dangerous. Mike Matarazzo collapsed on stage with nearly every muscle in his body cramping up, and he went into shock and was hospitalized and that was just below 3% bodyfat when that happened. You are probably going to have a well defined ab and oblique at anywhere from 8% - 11% or so your obliques will start to disappear after 11-12% depending on how you gain fat and where you gain it you can still have a six pack up to around 15%...but it wont be real hard.... it will be a soft 6 pack. 8-10% bodyfay is healthy but hard to maintain. 11-12% bodyfat is fairly easy to maintain once you get there, jsut hard to get there. 13-16% bodyfat is pretty easy to maintain without any serious dieting. 17% and higher is getting fat and requires either low metabolism, bad diet, or little workout, or any combination of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 definitely- bruce lee (at least during filming of say, enter the dragon) was at an incredibly low and unhealthy level. he actually over trained almost to the point of madness. (he lost something like ten pounds, obviously of muscle mass, during the filming of that movie from his training.) theres noooo way he was at 8. if i had to guess, id say something like 3 or below. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." -Machiavelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Whatever anyone says about his martial arts skills (myself included), it is undeniable that he was a training fanatic. I believe a contributing factor to his early death was the result of overtraining, to include unhealthy low levels of fat. When I was a boxer and was about 12-15 pounds below my natural weight (natural weight includes working out regularly and is usually around 3 1/2% body fat due to my premature birth), I was very strong and extremely fast. I lost some muscle, but a lot of it was fat that I didn't know existed...I didn't miss it until it was gone. At the same time, my body kept letting me know that it was not healthy. Bruce Lee was the kind of person that really wanted to push his limits physically and probably ignored some of these limits, and I think he went too far. His famous back injury was another example of this, as he got it lifting weights, not in a match. I think he had to have been below the 3% limit sometimes when filming. Sure, he would use a liberal amount of oil to make himself look good, but he was pretty ripped on his own, a little too ripped. This wasn't meant to further turn this into a Bruce Lee thread...but I'm just saying that 8% isn't entirely uncommon amongst very active people (males, as females have a naturally higher body fat composition for obvious reasons), especially those around the college level I suppose. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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