WolverineGuy Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 Thuggish, I have to disagree here. Dumbells allow for a greater range of motion, and allow for both arms to work independently, without the stronger arm compensating for the weaker. Barbells have their place, but stick to dumbells. If you REALLY want to hit your bi's, the best gains come from heavy BACK work (pullups,rows,chins, etc...), then you can supplement with low volume work on your arms with isolation excercises like curls. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
Topic Posted March 20, 2004 Author Posted March 20, 2004 Im gonna do all of those but i will definatley drop the weight down, my health comes first so ill take your tips guys, thanks
Rich67 Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 Thuggish: there's no dispute heavy weights make you big. But you can't tell a beginning weightlifter to simply go to the gym and curl heavy weight and have him expect to get big bi's. It doesn't work like that. He has to balance the heavy bi work with heavy tri, bench, and squat movements to ultimately gain size, otherwise he's like the rest of the disillusioned people in the gym thinking they can "Spot train" body parts. His main point was the PAIN he is experiencing after lifting those heavy weights. My suggestion was to not go so heavy, since I believe the pain is a result of going too heavy too fast. After lifting for 2-3 years and conditioning all your connective tissues, it is safe to go heavy with proper form. But a beginner is asking for trouble in the injury department if he tries to slam up too much weight right off the bat. Mixed Martial Artist
Thuggish Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 i was responding to him about biceps because thats what he was asking about, and i talked about the pain he was experiencing. as for the rest- barbell curls do not restrict the motion at all (assuming youre standing), and with PROPER FORM you will not only lift more total weight than with dumbells (thus causing your muscles to grow bigger, faster) it will not allow the stronger muscle to compensate for the weaker one... WITH PROPER FORM. sure dumbells have all sorts of benifits, but if you want the size, barbells are the way to go. a broken arm throws no punches
TheDevilAside Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 I'm with Rich on this one. But I suppose it's a personal preference, it all depends on your goals. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
WolverineGuy Posted March 20, 2004 Posted March 20, 2004 It is a proven fact that dumbells force you to stabilize more, recruiting more/different fibers. They also allow for more angle variations in different exercises. They also make each arm do its work, as opposed to barbells, where the stronger, dominant arm can push harder and the weaker arm can 'go along for the ride' if you aren't mindful of pushing with equal force with both arms. It is true that you may not be able to go as heavy in some movements using dumbbells. Barbells are useful, though. You can go a little heavier because you don't have to control the swing as much, for presses and deadlifts and squats, that means more weight and less stress on your hands/wrists/rotator cuffs. The cons are that they lock you into a range of motion that may not be a natural movement. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
SevenStar Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 stunting your growth isn't a prob, as you're 18. I do one arm curls with 55 also. It doesn't hurt me. you are probably using more weight than you can properly handle right now. decrease it.
SevenStar Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Thuggish, I have to disagree here. Dumbells allow for a greater range of motion, and allow for both arms to work independently, without the stronger arm compensating for the weaker. Barbells have their place, but stick to dumbells. If you REALLY want to hit your bi's, the best gains come from heavy BACK work (pullups,rows,chins, etc...), then you can supplement with low volume work on your arms with isolation excercises like curls. you won't get the mass from a dummy that you can get from a barbell as barbells can surpass a dummy in poundage. As far as ROM, there's not a varied ROM in the curl... I don't think it will make much difference between barbell and dumbell if you are doing the curl correctly.
aznkarateboi Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Wow you're pretty small for your age... lol.. i am 16 and i weigh only 5 pounds less than you
WhiteBelt Posted March 23, 2004 Posted March 23, 2004 Skip the biceps, work your back. Unless you're going for looks or are trying to focus on a 'weakness' you don't need to isolate your biceps.
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