kotegashiNeo Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 TMA will always be around not everyone that takes martial arts is interesting in fighting. Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro
cross Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 I think there will always be people who find the traditional martial arts appealing. Weather they want a hobby, fitness, fun, or a means of self defence that involves more than just 1-2 punches. And in a few years time all the 'modern' martial arts will be seen as traditional to because more and more people will be doing them.
Red J Posted March 15, 2004 Posted March 15, 2004 I think it has to do with supply and demand. If someone wants tradition they will seek it out and find someone to teach them. Schools that are not based on providing the consumer with what they want are destined for failure. What the consumer wants is the key and it varies from glorified babysitting to all out "old school" blood, sweat and tears training. Now here is a question. What is the date or other requirement that you would consider an art to be "modern"? I think I will start a new thread... I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
cross Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 Now here is a question. What is the date or other requirement that you would consider an art to be "modern"? Very good question, im interested to see what everyone says about this. But for me I dont consider different forms of martial arts as modern or traditional. i just take them for what they are.
italian_guy Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 Being traditional or modern is not a matter of date, it is mostly a matter of attitude. Modern MAs are focused on teaching you to fight (in a ring like Kickboxing or in the street like JKD, Krav Maga etc.) Traditional martial art also teach traditional values and philosophies. There is a cultural aspect in TMA that you won't find in any modern martial arts. Maybe a modern martial art is more efficent in teaching you how to fight but with a traditional martial art you enjoy a lot its complexity and the culture behind it.
SevenStar Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 Culture isn't necessarily a factor. judo and muay thai are considered modern MA, but you will in many cases learn aspects of the cultures of both while training, bowing, the ram muay, respect, etc... The main factor, IMO is the training methods. modern styles are geared towards efficiency and producing a competent fighter quickly. There are few styles that will turn out a GOOD fighter as quickly as style like bjj, boxing and muay thai can.
italian_guy Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 Culture isn't necessarily a factor. judo and muay thai are considered modern MA, but you will in many cases learn aspects of the cultures of both while training, bowing, the ram muay, respect, etc... This is why I do not consider judo and Muay Thai modern arts. BTW Muay thay is also chronologically very old? Isn't it?
SevenStar Posted March 16, 2004 Posted March 16, 2004 yes, chronologically, it's old. but the training methods and the fact that it is now a competition sport place it in the modern category.
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