Diet, carbs or protein?

[Rich67]

It's not a matter of being politically correct or not, Rich67. It's a matter of being rude.

You know, in reading my original post, I don't see how you can consider it rude. Maybe I was MISINFORMED about Atkins. I tried to answer the original poster as best as I could, stating my opinion on the subject. I'm not a doctor or weight loss specialist. I'm a guy who ALSO had a weight problem years ago. And I considered it EASY in MY PERSONAL OPINION to lose the weight once I got off my duff and started eating and exercising right. Oh yes..I'm also 37 years young, and my metabolism took a nosedive in the past couple years. Sure, that's a factor in weight loss. But I could have wrote 10 pages on every facet of weight loss from metabolism to thyroid problems to diabetics, etc. etc. I was trying to provide a simple plan and help the original poster out...low carb diets work, but watch the calories. It's not a secret...read any periodical on the subject and it'll say the same thing.

I've conquered my weight problem. It's behind me now. My comments at the beginning of this thread were directed towards the person logged in under the username "Bruce Lee," so that he might learn from my experiance.Stick to what you know, you'll come off looking a whole lot more intelligent. If all you know is how to impose your opinion on others, without caring how it makes them feel, then keep your mouth shut.

NOW who is being rude??? And telling me to keep my mouth shut is IMPOSING your opinion on me! I am not IMPOSING an opinion on ANYONE. If that's how you took it, you have issues. I was STATING MY OPINION. And the last time I checked, that is why I live in America and people are free to STATE AN OPINION. I would have been imposing it if I told him he was a knucklehead and that ANYONE should be able to lose weight easily; he NEEDS to do this or that to correct the problem;wham bam thank you maam. I didn't say that. And it kills me that you are arguing this point despite the fact that I explained myself and admitted my error. Go seek counseling if that upsets you.

[WolverineGuy]

You two are so cute.

 

Seriously...knock it off guys...arguing ain't gonna solve either issue. Krunchy was obviously offended, while Rich apparantly was misinformed. Guys, we're adults, and we're the ones that strive for self control. Let's show it. Now, who wants a cookie?

 

(I'm not condecending, just trying to lighten the mood)

[krunchyfrogg]

If I offended you by that statement, oh well. I may not be as politically correct as you want me to be.

 

That's not being rude?

[Rich67]

You two are so cute.

 

Seriously...knock it off guys...arguing ain't gonna solve either issue. Krunchy was obviously offended, while Rich apparantly was misinformed. Guys, we're adults, and we're the ones that strive for self control. Let's show it. Now, who wants a cookie?

 

(I'm not condecending, just trying to lighten the mood)

I want a E.L Fudge wafer....the little elves...you know?

 

If you don't have that, I'll take a crunchy frog...and take the bones out of it..... (a la Monty Python)

[Sorynn]

I am not an expert, but there are a few general rules and theories that I understand to be true. These are good guidlines to follow in a long-term "western" dietary plan.

 

Protein - Most people and athletes can consume 1-2 (maybe less) grams of protien per kg of bodywieght and sucessfully maintain and build muscle.

 

Carbohydrates - Avoid simple sugars if possible. Eat mostly non-processed complex carbohydrates, like long-grain rice and whole wheat breads. The complex carbs will take longer to metabolis and will provide a longer, more constant stream of energy.

 

Fats - In general, people should consume less than 30 percent of there dietary calories from fats. Some fats are essential for the body and will help to maintain your joints and proper body metabolism. Look up essential fatty acids (flax seed oil and salmon are high in these) for more information.

 

I try to follow a diet where about 20-25%, 60-65% and 15% of my daily calories come from protien, carbohydrates and fat, respectively. With about 15 years of self experimentation, this is the combination that works best for me. So, I can intake enough protien to maintain my muscle and have enough energy to perform training (strength, endurance and/or skills) at least once a day.

 

Years ago, I would keep a food log to track my food intake, and I think that is a good idea if you are just starting out. I no longer keep a food log. However, I found that once I tracked my food intake for a while, I could estimate daily intake fairly accurately without writing everything down.

 

Good luck to you.

 

Respectfully,

 

Sorynn

 

PS I do not have a fond opinion of the Atkins diet, and can voice those concerns if you wish.

 

 

 

Edit: I did a search on bodybuilding.com and found this... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/willbrink7.htm I think it is a good read and is congruent with everything I have learned. Just watch out for the sales pitch on the supplements.

[Rich67]

Supplements have their place, but they are surrounded by a lot of hype, too. Your diet is exactly what I try for. The only supplement I found that helps me is creatine. I also take MetRX for protein supplementation. Creatine works; I benched my best while using it. It helps me recover quicker between workouts, and gives me more aerobic endurance. The only problem is I mix it with fruit juice, so I end up getting too many calories and carbs when I'm on it; hence, fat. It also makes me feel bloated. The best all-around-use-everyday supplement is whey protein. It's hard to get 1-2gms per body weight unless you eat a lot of eggs, tuna, and lean meats all day. I just mix a shake and drink it 2x a day and I've nailed about 100g right there.

[WolverineGuy]

That's what creatine does: fills your muscles with water. I take: Whey protein, Creatine, Glutamine, Amino supps, flax seed oil, and ZMA. Good stuff.

[krunchyfrogg]

PS I do not have a fond opinion of the Atkins diet, and can voice those concerns if you wish.

 

Contrary to what ya'll might think from my earlier posts, I agree with Sorynn.

 

As for supplements, I think you're better off sticking with multi-vitamins. Too many suplements are not approved by the FDA, which is something I really don't feel like messing with.

[Sorynn]

I agree with Rich67, that supplements do have there place. The problem comes from the hype that says you have to use them at all costs.

 

Currently, I take a multivitamin, flax seed oil, and glucosamine-condrotin. I started the flax seed oil and glucosamine-condrotin as preventative joint care. I am not sure how well it works, as I have not seen scientific studies on it. But it can not hurt, since I beat up my joints several times a week in Hapkido.

 

Respectfully,

 

Sorynn