Nirvana Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Can somebody give me some information about bulking/cutting? Like how long I need to do the bulking cycle before I start cutting, and if possible what to eat and then how long the cutting cycle is etc? Thanks in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Here is an article from bodybuilding.com, in their forums. "A BEGGINER's GUIDE TO BODYBUILDING" MYTHS SPOT REDUCTION NO SUCH THING!!! Doing a hundred crunches will strengthen the abs, but won’t do anything to the fat. Only through hard work, cardio, and a healthy diet will you achieve this. HIGHER REPS = MORE DEFINITION AND "TONENESS” The truth is, higher reps will NOT tone your muscles or make them more defined. Once again, this is having a low body fat %. Higher reps will work on endurance though and is great for some athletes and marathon runners. GAIN MUSCLE AND LOSE FAT When we all start out lifting, we have this lucky gift of being able to lose fat yet get muscle at the same time. Over time, this completely goes away. I notice a lot of posts are “oh my goals are to lose the old gut while getting my chest bigger...”. This isn’t going to happen unless you are a beginner (a.k.a newbie) or on steroids. Think about it. How can you gain muscle on a calorie deficit and/or lose fat on a calorie surplus? Once you feel you gotten to the point where you can no longer do the above, then you have a choice of doing a cutting or bulking phase. THE MORE THE BETTER (RIGHT?) Ever hear the phase “muscle grow outside the gym”. Well, this phase fits in right here. When people first start out lifting, they tend to think that more is better. This is definatly not the case. Your muscles and body needs time to recover. Also, around an hour or so (differs from everyone), cortical is released from the body which can actually kill off muscle tissue and cause muscle catabalism. This can be prevented if you train smart. Do no more then a 5 day split training each muscle once a week (smaller ones twice most) and working out no more then an hour. Now don’t get me wrong, everybody is different and people respond to different methods, principals, techniques, etc. But this most likely all you need to do. Most people say “oh, I’m training each body part 2x a week and only have one rest day and getting good results” but what they don’t realize is that they aren’t giving their body (central nervous system) full time to recover as well as their muscles. Even though muscles only need 48-72 hours to recover, they still don’t recover fully which is why it benefits you to take a week off every 2-3 months. I DO CARDIO FOR MY LEG WORK..THAT’S ALL I NEED The truth is, legs also need heavy anaerobic sets just like the upper body. Running is to aerobic to call it a leg “mass builder”. Besides, the best exercise known to us bodybuilders is for legs (SQUATS!). By the way, chicken legs and a huge upper body will look very unproportianal and kind of weird. I DIDN'T GET A PUMP OR WAS SORE THIS MORNING... "Pumps" and soreness in your muscles doesn't mean too much (for hypertrophy [ muscle growth]). I could get a good pump from picking a weight and lifting it for 100x. This will porbably deal way more with endurance then hypertrophy. Samething goes with soreness. The real way you can tell if your workouts are good is over time. CUTTING Now lets say your goal is to look nice and thin and get rid of the old gut and get abs by the summer times Here you are going too need to start reducing your calories, increasing protein, decreasing saturated fats and carbs. DIET Some diets where people got good results from: Atkins diet, keto diet Here are some estimations to help you figure out your calories and protein needs: Calories: bodyweight x 11-13 Protein: bodyweight x 1.2-1.4 The key here is too keep saturated fats in moderation. Don’t totally eliminate them from your diet. You still need some. Also, don’t go overboard with decreasing the carbs (unless you are on keto which requires you too). Depending on your metabolism, try to split this into 4-6 smaller meals over the course of the day. CARDIO You are also going to have to start doing some cardio. Start out with one short cardio session. By starting out with a lot of cardio days, you are only hurting yourself and looking for an injury. Each week, start increasing it until you get around 20-45 minutes. You might also want to look into HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) cardio. Don’t let the time (12-15 minutes) of these cardio sessions fool you. The sessions are very intense. WEIGHT TRIANING Training splits should stay the same. Like I said before, reps shouldn’t go higher. I prefer a 3 day split while cutting because it is easier to fit in cardio and easier to recover while under a calorie deficit. SUPPLEMENTS Some good supplements too look are: whey protein, multi vitamins, glutamine, and fat burners (WARNING: only take a fat burner if you are in good cardiovascular condition and have good blood pressure with no history of bad cardiovascular health). TIPS A way you can minimize muscle loss is not decreasing the calories all over night. Don’t just decrease your calories all in a day. Your body has to get used to what it has. Slowly decrease your calories by 200-300 each week until you get to your desired calories, carbs, and saturated fats. LINKS Some good informative links while cutting are: http://www.bodybuilding.com/teen/bigcourse.htm http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/anthony2.htm http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcommand2.htm http://bodybuilding.com/fun/south9.htm BULKING How many people out there no matter how hard they try, can’t gain any muscle? There are a few reasons why this is so. Are you over training? Are you eating enough? Are you getting enough sleep? Etc. DIET Most people have a good workout, but ignore there diet. Like I said before, you must be eating. Take a look at these estimations: Calories: bodyweight x 19-20 Protein: same as cutting Keep carbs high too around 300-450 gram range (depending on bodyweight). If you limit saturated fats and bulk cleanly, you will limit the time you need to cut and minimizing muscle loss. Try to eat this in a matter of 5-7 meals. TIPS If you are getting too fat (do not do this if you aren’t gaining at all) throw in a cardio session or two during the week. If you are having trouble eating during class, eat a big breakfast and keep things that can be sealed like powerbars, peanuts, mrb shakes/bars in your locker. Here is a good article on this by big red: http://www.bodybuilding.com/teen/college.htm https://www.fitday.com and https://www.calorieking.com are both great links for nutritional breakdown of certain specific foods. WEIGHT TRAINING Here I would recommend a 4-5 day split. There are a ton out there. Anyone will pretty much work as long as you are eating & sleeping enough, and not overtraining. Most people respond best to the 8-10 and 6-8 rep range. Some people respond better to lower reps like the 4-6 and/or higher reps like the 10-12. Anything lower then 4 IMO, is for strength gains, SUPPLEMENTS Some good supplements to look into are: whey protein, multivitamins, creatine, bcaa, liver tabs, and zma. LINKS Some good bulking links are: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ice19.htm http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/mike3.htm http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne2.htm (nice one by good old layne ) THE WORKOUT When working out, you want to try and stick with heavy compound movements. Back- Deadlifts, rowing movements, chinning/pull-ups Legs- Squats, stiff legged deadlifts, calf raises Shoulders - Shoulder presses (standing/seated, Arnold, DB/BB,etc) ISOLATION: raises Chest - Bench press, Dips, ISOLATION flyes and crossovers Biceps - Close-grip chinups, ISOLATION curls Triceps - Close-grip bench press, skull crushers, ISOLATION tricep pushdowns Traps- shrugs Abs- weighted & decline crunches, hanging leg raises, lying side bends and twist crunches (obliques) link to Brit_beef's workout split thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...threadid=111953 Here are some good websites for videos on proper form and exercises: http://www.2-fit.com/video/index.html http://www.theministryoffitness.com/exercises.htm http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html Have a protein shake (Whey protein shake) and some sort of simple sugar like honey and/or dextrose after your workouts. I recommend every month or two changing up your split. This will avoid a plateu when you no longer can gain anything. You can do something simple like superset or totally rearrange your split. Some great things to do are: pyramid (both up and down are good), supersets (and all variations), forced reps, down the rack, negatives (warm up properly before this), drop sets, etc. Bump up your calorie intake, protein, and carbs as well. Here are a few good links for the descriptions of the above: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ice4.htm http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis3.htm GET MOTIVATED! Here is a great link for some motivation : http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbmainmind.htm Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bretty101 Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 hey wolve, did you write all that yourself? Whats a skull crusher? (Tricep exercise) Cheers B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 God no. Got that off of bodybuilding.com...but its sound advice. Skull crushers: Lay supine on back with ez-curl bar (pronated grip) raised above you with arms fully extended. Lower the bar by bending the elbow. As the bar nears the head move the elbows slightly back just enough to allow the bar to clear around the curvature of the head. Extend the arm. As the bar clears the head reposition the elbows to its former position until the arm is fully extended. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_2k3 Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I tell u what, theres some good stuff in there. I dont use free weights at all though really, just havent got round to it. I'm more concerned with improving my martial arts and general fitness, for muscle gain i'm doing Dynamic strength exercises(similar to isometrics) and calsinthetics. Ive started on the skipping and bag work too. I might give the weights a try in about a year, u see i'm only 17 and I cant be bothered with all the calorie counts, diets, injuries and all that, got skool to worry about. Maybe later. Wolverine one question, u know this "weight lifting stunts ur growth" stuff, is it in anyway true or is it just myth, and if so is there any science behind why ppl believe it or is it just old wives tales? "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Practice is the key _ Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Well I read that myself so I got nothing to tell you. Somone love oneSomone love twoI love one That one is myself just have been turn down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich67 Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 That's good info, but to answer your question quickly and efficiently, here goes: 1) Bulk up by consuming more calories than you burn each day. You have to find your BMR (base metabolic rate) ; there are sites on the net that can help you figure it out. The calories should be in the form of complex carbs and protein ( protein shakes, veggies, protein bars and peanut butter, etc). You have to work out hard or you will NOT bulk up muscularity wise, only around the waist. I do this for about 3-4 months. Watch the junk food, although you can eat junk one day a week. Limit aerobic activity. Do light warm-up aerobics, focus on heavy weightlifting. 2) Cutting: reduce your caloric intake to less than your BMR. Increase aerobic activity to 4-5 times a week, reduce weightlifting to 3 times a week and do lighter weights. Keep taking in a lot of protein to prevent muscle breakdown. Mixed Martial Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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