JKA

[aefibird]

It all sounds very complicated...

[informer]

Isnt shotokan really a watered down, bastardized version of real Okinawan Karate?

[tommarker]

Isn't real Okinawan Karate really a watered down, bastardized version of Shaolin White Crane?

[informer]

The Okinawans already had "Ti" their own empty handed fighting method. What did the mainland Japanese have before Funakoshi's Shorin Ryu?

[equaninimus]

Tom, touche!

[tommarker]

informer...

 

I'll remember that the next time someone bashes TKD/TSD. "at least the Koreans had Tae Kyun"

 

Are you suggesting that Japan had no style of empty hand fighting before Funakoshi?

[informer]

Notice the ? in my post, I was not suggesting I was asking.

[ESA-Shotokan]

Isnt shotokan really a watered down, bastardized version of real Okinawan Karate?

 

Erm...That reminds me of a quote taken from an interview with Slater Williams.

Edited January 8, 2004 by ESA-Shotokan

[Gyte]

The Okinawans already had "Ti" their own empty handed fighting method. What did the mainland Japanese have before Funakoshi's Shorin Ryu?

 

Before Funakoshi the Japanese already had sumo, ju jutsu, judo and aikido. These martial arts are mostly based on grappling, throwing and joint-locking. However, in some ju jutsu styles kicking and punching is stressed. An example of this is Shinto Yoshin Ryu, which was studied by Japanese Hironori Ohtsuka, the founder of Wado Ryu Karate.