aefibird Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 It all sounds very complicated... "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
informer Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Isnt shotokan really a watered down, bastardized version of real Okinawan Karate? http://www.mixedmartialartsexpo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommarker Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Isn't real Okinawan Karate really a watered down, bastardized version of Shaolin White Crane? I'm no longer posting here. Adios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
informer Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 The Okinawans already had "Ti" their own empty handed fighting method. What did the mainland Japanese have before Funakoshi's Shorin Ryu? http://www.mixedmartialartsexpo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Tom, touche! There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommarker Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 informer... I'll remember that the next time someone bashes TKD/TSD. "at least the Koreans had Tae Kyun" Are you suggesting that Japan had no style of empty hand fighting before Funakoshi? I'm no longer posting here. Adios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
informer Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Notice the ? in my post, I was not suggesting I was asking. http://www.mixedmartialartsexpo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESA-Shotokan Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 (edited) Isnt shotokan really a watered down, bastardized version of real Okinawan Karate? Erm...That reminds me of a quote taken from an interview with Slater Williams. Edited January 8, 2004 by ESA-Shotokan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyte Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 The Okinawans already had "Ti" their own empty handed fighting method. What did the mainland Japanese have before Funakoshi's Shorin Ryu? Before Funakoshi the Japanese already had sumo, ju jutsu, judo and aikido. These martial arts are mostly based on grappling, throwing and joint-locking. However, in some ju jutsu styles kicking and punching is stressed. An example of this is Shinto Yoshin Ryu, which was studied by Japanese Hironori Ohtsuka, the founder of Wado Ryu Karate. "Practising karate means a lifetime of hard work."~Gichin Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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