JerryLove

I did before I posted... and you are simply lying. Besides, you just said in the other thread that "Ki is just a feeling". Opinions are like armpits; one's own is warm and secure and everyone else's just stinks.

My art is well known as a blade art. Most everything I do which is not focused n another weapon (such as a firearm) is knife-functiona.

The tendancy for injury really drops heavily when one is moving very slowly. I suppose it's worth mentioning that I do "pull" the biting.

Watch more, later, UFCs... You'll find that strikers who train to deal with grapplers do just fine... Strikers who don't train realistically die even faster than grapplers who don't train realistically.

Boxers all train to punch through; and rarely seem to feel the need to actually debate it. I thought this was pretty well understood as the way to inflict damage by master and neophyte alike.

Also every class. Sparring slowly, your partner is capable of mitigating certain actions... Droping someone on their neck slowly becomes nigh-on impossable becuase they drop themselves in a safer manner prior to it happening... If they don't, they they get hurt when they do suddenly end up on their neck.

I do those things in sparring... just slowly

So it would be OK to, for example, drop him 6 feet on his neck? Or to grab a finger and yank really hard? Or to bite him? Or to pound his groin? Or to stomp and try to break his toes?

Us... Full contact, full targets, no speeed. sansoouser... who does judo... Judo iteself is limited techniques/targets. You are also "pulling" by limiting follow-through. That said, do you do this on hard floors? I would think there were a lot of head and neck injuries.

I had signed up to... I got diagnosed with cancer the month before the event and did not attend.

A car travelling at 10 mph has more momentium than a .50 cal round from a rifle... I'd rather get hit by the car. Got any other flawed theories you'd like to expouse?

Kinda-like how cars and bullets (both of which attemt to go right through you) cause no damage huh? No, Momentium=mass * velocity Force = accelleration / time (or accelleration*time, depending on what number for "accelleration" you are trying to compute from) So a bullet that stays in your body does less damage because its maintained contact? What you are actually thinking of (should actually be thinking of) is the amount of time it takes to transfer energy from your hand to the target.. That's what leans more towards pushing... OTOH, chest compressions are done with a puch, and doing those to a person with a functioning heart will cause arythmia and death... so why is pushing neccessairily bad? I tend to disagree... particularly since compressing only 1-2 inches of body may fail to penetrate enough to do anything useful (depending on who is hit and where). But then peng is gone. Without follow-through, you won't have much effect (you are "pulling your punch") Really? And this is based on what?

My bad... In that case, I have no useful input due to a lack of experience with San Soo

Having been involvedin the local San Shou events here before.. and having played with some of the judges from said events... and having had some students participate... Our students are better fighters than what I have encountered at the San Shou tournament. I don't have enough exposure outside the tournaments to make a more general statement.

When you can balance a tack hammer on your forehead you will be able to head off your foes with a well balanced attack. Man with hand in pocket well feel cocky.

Let me see if I can sum up your argument: The FBI is wrong about what really happens. The Dept. of Justice is wrong about what really happens. The various police organizations are wrong about what really happens. The NRA is wrong about what really happens. The people I can point to who have shot and been shot are wrong about what really happens. I'm wrong about what really happens. But, with no actual evidene you can point to, *you* are right because you (like so many who disagree with you, such as me) have shot targets on a range.

If he had (and some of us have), it would only be anticdotal. That's utterly rediculious. A greater percentage of people who resist live than people who cooperate... therefore resisting yields higher odds of success as a general rule.... You want to argue the conclusions? Go for it. The data is readily available; show the statistical error in reading it. I'm a former DBA and and happy to get as in-depth as you like. That would only tell you what the results are under controled conditions. I can't believe you are arguing "reality cannot be trusted to determine what reality is like"... You are also contradicting yourself. You claim he must shoot someone to know, but now you claim that you need a controlled study (in both cases discounting looking at teh actual reality). So which is it? Personal experience or lab-based testing? But he's not citing case studies.. he's citing general statistucs... do you even understand the difference? They provide counter-examples to calims... but the basis of the argument is on real statistical data... not case studies. Yes, that is just your experience.. on a range... under controlled conditions... and after railing about anticdotes. And yes, shooting laterally moving targets on a range (or for that matter, shooting skeet) is old-hat. The reality remains that most shots fired on our streets in anger miss. the reality remains that most people shot are not shot fatally, and that most people fatally shot don't drop immediately. I don't know abou martial_artist, but I have spent the time... I can shoot moving targets with a bow as well... your still completely wrong.

Several answers I agree with. One is that the number of hours is more critical than the number of weeks. Millitary PT is 16+ hours a day and done very rigorously... Typical MA training is a couple hours a week and not very rigorous. Also, as mentioned, the focus is different. Our "self defense" cirriculum is 12 months (less if you put in the effort)... while one combatively improves through further training; 12 months is really the bulk of it... Given someone who wanted to put in the time and effort (IOW study all day), I'm sure that could be cut down by at least an order of magnatude.

You might want to try this on the "Karate" or "General Martial Arts" areas, rather than "Strategies and Tactics".

Not really. I started a point-by-point, but realize that your comments in this post are already addressed. Sufficient to say, that I was not offering the advice to people confronted with 20mm grenade launchers nor artillery... I would not recommend disarm techniques against tanks nor aircraft... Sorry if I was not clear that the scope of my commentary was built on the single attacker with a sidearm. Police miss more times than they hit. Look at the Diallo case: 4 police officers fired 41 rounds at a relatively stationary target and less than half hit. Perhaps you shoulc look at the actual statistics when arguing against someone working from real numbers. In movies perhaps. Name a single police officer shot by a criminal in another car during a chase. Actually, Martial_artist and I agree (because we are both looking at the actual statistics); and he's done an excellent job or retort; so rather than be redundant, I'll step back and let the man work

There is a tremendous amount of variety in Indonesian fighting methods. They range from sports styles, to purely combative styles, to a style designed for a ritualistic challenge of a bridegroom for the bride. So I will talk in generalities. The Pentjak Silat styles are the indigenous styles which include cultural elements. Here is where you will find the wedding styles, the dance styles, and many of the sport styles. There are also quite a few fighting styles in here. The Pentjaks tend to prefer outside over inside fighting positions. They tend to go from open defensive postures to closed offensive postures. They will occasionally have mystical elements. The Poukilan Silat styles tend to be pure fighting styles without cultural elements. They tend to be direct and to the point. They tend towards close fighting (Poukilan means "impact"). They also tend to prefer outside positions. The Kuntao Silat styles are conglomerates of Indo and Chinese fighting methods. They tend more towards closed defensive postures that open to attack. They also tend more toward inside positions when fighting, preferring the availability of soft targets to the safety of outside positions. The Silats do have animal styles (Harimau (tiger) and Madi (monkey) being two of the better known). They have few if any unarmed styles. They tend to adapt rapidly. There is a tendency to throw out whatever becomes obsolete and add whatever becomes relevant. This is why most modern Silat schools to teach firearm retention and counter-firearm strategies, as well as more traditional weapons (knife, stick, spear). One noted difference between the Indo arts and the nearby Chinese arts is the tendency of the Indo arts to use already strong structures within the body (as opposed to the Chinese tradition of conditioning the body). This allowed the old, the young, the sick, and the wounded to effectively use these arts. - http://www.clearsilat.com/silat/Articles/overview.htm Paul is the only brother I have not met.

This is because the events and injuries in boxing matches are more widely recorded than the details of other fights. One need not get both ears... so the question becomes "which will get closer to a seal, a fist or a palm"... I think that's self-evident. Further, a boxer's punch is helped by the glove itself; which in this case gives a large, smooth surface with which to form a seal. Some on-point medical sites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=rupture+eardrum+open+hand&spell=1 Unlike a closed fist, an open hand usually produces an air pocket with the ear canal, causing pressure against the eardrum that can actually rupture it inward. - http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/texts/guide/hmg31_0005.html The causes of perforated eardrum are usually from trauma or infection. A perforated eardrum can occur: If the ear is struck squarely with an open hand - - http://www.entassociates.com/perforation.htm I don't have a particular instance I can point to.. as I mentioned, the details of non-competative figths are seldom recorded... but medical consensus is clear.

Generally because it's easier... but do whichever makes you more happy. I would expect the open hand to be faar more likely to get the ruptured eardrum effect.

I want to address a few in particular. 5. Blows to the ears can and will break ear-drums. I put up many cites in my post in the Combative Arts section http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ruptured+eardrum+blow http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=ruptured+eardrum+fight 6. George Dillman readily demonstrates this knock-out on anyone who voulenteers. 10. Is intended to trigger 6. 12. I don't see any reason why not.. but admit I'm not coming across cases of this. 16. Improper chest compression can cause hearts to flutter and go into arythmia... This is something reinforced in any CPR traning. 26. Many strikes/spots will cause cramping of the diagphram.. making contrinued breathing difficult. 27. varies heavily by the nature of the hit. 29. It's like a floating rib but worse... but yes, very hard to hit. 28 and 30. It is possibleto do nerve damage with sufficient hits in this ares. The siataic is quite damageable from teh buttox. The Coxix is best hit upward and can be rather debilitating. It's also worth noting that most energetic-hits require not onlt a particular point.. but a particular type of strike. A few months ago, I was at a resturaunt and needed to scoot my chair up. So I grabbed the seat, scooted forward and put my weight back down. Well, one finger had gotten between the seat and the leg, and BAM!. It caused some bleeding under my nail, and hurt... but what suprised me was that I got hot and sweaty and nauseous... I've been hurt far worst.. but it was the right damage, at teh right place, at the right time.

Medical Sites: - http://health.discovery.com/diseasesandcond/encyclopedia/2344.html http://www.acenta.com/ent.rupturedeardrum.asp - http://www.utmbhealthcare.org/hil/EARN4456.asp?header= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ruptured+eardrum+blow examples of it happening in a fight: - http://www.rossboxing.com/articles/article193.htm - http://www.boxinginsider.net/columns/stories/45232511.php - http://www.centredaily.com/mld/dailytimes/2003/06/05/news/6019143.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=ruptured+eardrum+fight