Kyle-san

An excellent and very true point.

Yeah, I'd love to see someone in a Jujutsu dojo (Japanese, Brazillian, it doesn't matter) spar full contact. There'd be no students left without broken limbs by the end of the night.

I'm a huge fan of kata, but then again my first art was Shotokan. As it's been said already, if you really understand the applications of the kata's movements and are able to adapt them then they're very beneficial. Otherwise, it's nothing.

You should really stop generalizing, there are more traditional arts out there than just Karate and TKD. And even if there weren't, nothing is completely useless.

If you can find a good sensei who really knows how to adapt the techniques and you in turn understand how to adapt them to different situations Shotokan will make you a very deadly stand up fighter. But that's the big trick, finding someone "good". I've found in Shotokan these sensei's are few and far between, and it's become mainly McDojo-ized. I still want to get back into it, though. My only MA related regret is not getting my shodan.

That's such a terrible conclusion to come to, why don't you explain to me how a Muay Thai kickboxer can beat any traditional style. Please include a specific explaination about Jujutsu so I have something to relate to.

Every master, not matter how good has a master that he looks back on and compares himself to and often says he's not even half the man that this master was. It just keeps going back. So, in short, I don't know the names of enough masters, their particular skills or have a means to judge and rank them so I'll be completely subjective. My Aki Jujitsu sensei.

See, the thing is TKDMASTER this isn't a very interesting debate since you've taken the overzealous Christian angle and are telling us what is and isn't right. You're saying Jesus IS the Son of God, not that you believe he is or have faith that he is, but outright ignoring any non-Christian idea being put in front of you and saying it's wrong, the Christian view is right. Noone is getting mad, but you're certainly ignoring opinions left and right. Now, in my ever-so-humble opinion I think omnifite's response is a perfect balance to the points being brought up. Noone is bashing you for your faith, but on the other hand we [at very least, I] have no interest in being told that we're outright wrong because the bible, and you, say so. The only way someone is going to get mad in this discussion is if people persist in calling down another's beliefs. You have your opinion, Kensai has his, omnifite has his, I have mine. Maybe all are right, maybe none are right, but there's no way to prove it.

In the city there's a wide range of styles seeing as there's nearly 1 000 000 people living here. On the campus there are: Ketto Ryu Jujutsu Goju Ryu Karate Shotokan Karate ITF Taekwon Do Judo Aikikai Aikido Wing Chun Kung Fu Kickboxing Fencing There's also a traditional Kenjutsu dojo somewhere aroud here.

It seems to me that's the correct conclusion to arrive at.

If I had time on the ground that I could see him still moving in on me, I'd hit him as fast and hard as I could with a punch or kick or whatever. If that's not working, I'm going to try and roll out and hurt him as much as I can while doing it. Personally, I love getting ahold of fingers. Snap, snap.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with not being able to give a sensei by sensei lineage. Even if they did give that, it'd have absolutely no bearing on my decision just because they were trained by some master who was trained by another master, etc. If the sensei there isn't someone you feel comfortable with or have problems learning from/trusting then it's a sign to leave. If you feel comfortable and are understanding the techniques and explainiations, then you know you've latched onto a good sensei.

I'd rather have that fine balance that you can find in Jujutsu where everything is covered to a certain extent, however my personal preference lies in striking. I like to keep my distance, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if I get into a fight aginst someone untrained. However, grappling is extremely important if you go to the ground. I'd have to say they're equal in importance, really.

From what you're saying that you'd like out of the art (able to use quickly, locks, takedowns) Jujutsu would definately be the way to go. It'll give you the results the fastest and if you've found a good dojo it'll make you very dangerous by the time you're done.

Every religion has a history of violence and negative experiences attached to them if you look into the history. Be it Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist.

What I try and do when I'm caught is a scissors is to focus on the ankles and attempt to wedge a foot or hand in between them. Barring that, I'm not sure. Pressure points, maybe?

There's no way of being able to not flinch without a lot of practice. You just have to train yourself, your mind, to focus your eyes on one spot but still be able to watch the rest of the person's body. It's hard to do, I've been working at it for 8 years and I still flinch now and again.

I just love martial arts, they've been an active part of my life since I was 10 and a passive influence (through my dad, movies, books, etc) since I was young enough to remember. I can't imagine living without some type of training or research or debate about MAs, it'd just be too boring.

Indeed. Of course, all those high kicks just build up strength for when you have to let out a much lower kick. I happened to be doing some "free form" self defence in my Jujutsu class on Monday and reacted to a punch with a standard TKD defence. I stepped in and at the same time grabbed the arm and pulled as I kicked to the ribs. The guy I was with just laughed after and commented that if I had put any power into that it would have easily broken a few ribs. It's from the high kicks.

Superior numbers combined with training and experience would be my conclusion. Of course, that doesn't mean the Okinawans were completely defenceless, if you've ever watched some of the weapons forms in Okinawan styles it's easy to see how they'd work effectively against a sword or spear.

Most people give away their target by looking at it first, but an experience fighter will know how to avoid that. Without relying on the person's eyes, watch the shoulders, arms, even a slight shift forward or backward can indicate the move. However, it's difficult to predict with any kind of consistancy and if you're thinking about what you have to do your mind tends to react a bit slower and by that time the attack is already to you.

If you've already paid for the training you should take advantage of it, even if it is a McDojang those two months can make a lot of difference when moving to another art. I know that the times I've taken a few months off between arts I've come back incredibly rusty and wishing I had just kept going until I switched. Of course, if you weren't under contract I'd say just leave.

I'm currently studying Jujutsu and I know it's effective for a few reasons, most of which have already been stated. -I have faith in my techniques and myself, I know that if the situation arises I've been prepared well enough to keep myself together and do what's needed to get out of there as quickly as I can. Wether than means giving up my wallet to the mugger with a gun or redirecting the drunk at the bar, because I've practiced the techniques and I understand them they'll work. -In class we have a certain period of time where we're attacked randomly and we have to react and defend ourselves. It's currently one attack/one defence, but it help build the reactions and confidence in the techniques. -It's proven that Jujutsu works in a variety of situations from a bar fight to use by Law Enforcement officials. It doesn't need to be proven in the ring in front of the cameras for the world, it's already been shown to work on the streets.

The first few posts you made, specifically about the names of moves (and their descriptions) and the number of arts you're allowed to "mix" into your style scream bad video game/cartoon plot. It's good that you don't care about what I think and won't let it stop you, because I intend to keep saying it. If on the off chance that this does turn out well and as a sucessful martial art I'll come apologize in person, but until then I'll keep up my skepticism.

There's nothing you can really do to prove that a move works if the person doesn't want to listen. You know it works, you can apply it during sparring and that's enough proof right there. People will debate what can and can't work until they're dead, but nothing give solid evidence like it being used in a situation.