nonpuritan

hmmm nice read up =) thanks for the site and all! Cheers

Jet Li is by far the best. He is the fastest MA movie star around, in a real fight it would proboly be over before anyone saw it coming. If you have ever seen his movie about him against the japanese school or whatever u will see how freakinging fast he is, no effects. I wouldnt douhbt(sp?) chan as second, hes good and seagul i dunno, i dont trust americans MA skill as much as asians lol. [ This Message was edited by: nonpuritan on 2002-07-04 01:49 ]

i have trained many different methods of iron palm here is what i think is the most effective i started with a canvas bag filled with chinese mung beans but not too full for the bag must have some give, an important thing to remember in iron palm training is to try to not use force when striking the bag, but to let "gravity" do it's job and let your hand fall, with correct breathing technique and posture you will eventually learn to make your hand deel "heavier" as you become accustomed to chaneling qi, it is very important that you do not use force iron palm training increases your power and the conditioning of your hand and the ability of your body to withstand shock, that is why gradual training is necescary for that is the only way the attributes increase in syncronous, if your poer gains exceed your conditioning gains you could be in trouble, heres an analogy, if you had a robotic arm that could lift 2 tons could you actually lift 2 tons or instead would your arm just rip off cause your body can't support the force or weight i use the classic 5 strike system which consits of a slapping palm, throwing palm (back of the hand), cutting palm (knife edge), palm heel, and dotting palm (finger tips) before starting you should apply a generous amount of liniment and let it seep in for a minute or so, it is actually better if you can soak your whole hands in a container filled with linement, at higher stages you should reaply or re-soak throught the training, i have some recipies for home made palm linament if anyone is interested you must train with under the supervision of someone who is experienced, the people who have commented on injury are correct, but it can be even worse then just physical, cosmetic injury, improper technique can cause the qi you exert to create a backlash of negative qi in your body and if you don't learn to send this force back to the ground it can cause serious irreversible illness, you must have proper body alignment, root and breathing in order to ground out the backlashes, this can only be shown in person, if you are interested in iron palm and iron shirt techniques i strongly suggest you seek out a qualified instructor or you will regret it, the only time i would suggest trying without an instructor is if you are already well versed in internal methods and know how to align your body and spine properly to create a good root eventually you will break all the beans then you refill the bag, after it becomes very easy for you to break all the beans in a short period of time you can move on to beebees, my instructor suggested to me that i don't do this until i could break all the beans in a couple of strikes, but everyone's different and that's ok as long as you stay safe as far as qi kung goes, internal styles (especially bagua) uses iron palm training as nei kung unless they are not being taught properly, so i wouldn't go so far to say as qi kung is a means to reach the same goals as iron palm, you still need to strengthen the sinews, as a matter of fact the internal styles go much more indepth into iron palm training than do the external styles, most internal stylists use many different linements through out thier training, the initial stages use hot linements, which bring qi to the hands, and in advanced stages they use cold linements which are used to condense the qi into the bones for more focused power, this of course must be in conjunction with marrow washin excercises

undefinedOk im STILL looking at different MA schools, lol. Ok so ive took a muay thai class, its ok but the enviroment just didnt feel right. Then I went to a longfist-kung fu class, it was ok but didnt seem my style. Theres a school in my area that teaches Xing Yi Quan and im wondering if thats a little to hard for me considering I have no prior. kung fu experience. I also know it is an internal art, do you think I should take an external style before an internal? Also whats Xing Yi Quan like? Since its internal is there no powerfull attacks? Isnt it a pressure point system MA? Any very powerfull attacks? thx for any replys!

Hi everybody!! My name is Zach, im 14 and im from portland OR. Im took TKD for 6 years, got bored and im starting either muay thai/kung fu/ xing yi quan. Im also on Shaolinwolf if your interested.... Hope to talk to you all! Cheers