You can't say NHB's have nothing to offer. They are closer to most "fight"situations out there than any other competition. Also, I'm not agreeing with Tapout totally either. I believe that if you are a true master of your art you are at an equal skill level as other masters, but also take note that there is a PERFECT MARTIAL ART, know what it is............MMA.....Mixed martial arts. To be the best fighter, competitor, street survivalist, law enforcement agent, person, you have to be a well rounded individual. If you only face one direction, you never see the beauty behind you. If you were to go to war, as a soldier, would you only take one weapon. I would hope not. I would take a: rifle-to take out people at long range and to cover my friends, a pistol-just in case my rifle jammed, a knife-if i had to take someone out quietly, a grenade...................everyone get the point I train in traditional arts, and in combative arts. I know both sides, both are worthy and credible and deserve no ones slander.