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stonecrusher69
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Hello everyone, It's been a long time I've. My old YouTube channel was deleted by YouTube so I to start over again..Anyway here is a new video and what I've been working on.. Over the years my Wing Chun has changed alot and developed into my own style....Here is a better video which is longer and you can see other things like grappling ive added to my chi sao
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https://youtu.be/4AkbkcRQEvk?si=jC19XQrcJa12l1Zn
Hello everyone..It's been a long time but am back..My old youtube channelwas deleted by Youtube and I lost all my content but I have new content and a new direction in my training..Here is a video I made very recently..I hope you like it..Am mainley a wing chun guy but over the last 5 years I've developed my own style..
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A little late to the game, but perhaps I can add a little something...
Good setup and good strike...I would not find fault in what you show.
To share a little Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) info on this...for the heal palm strike...there is "extra point" (Qi Xue - 奇穴) that is located right in the middle of the eyebrow (bilateral). Trying lightly "taping" that as a part of the strike and see what kind of results that you get...this particular point is called Yu Yao or Yuyao (魚腰) and means "Fish Belly". The numbering can vary based on where you look. In what I consider to be the "bible" of TCM (or at least the best quick reference manual...especially for martial artists), Fundamentals of Chinese Acupuncture" by Ellis, Wiseman and Boss, it is referenced as M-HN-6. Other sources (Tung) show it as EX-HN4.
Now, want to take it up a notch? As you make the strike, rotate the hand such that the fingers of your striking hand rotate to the outside of the attacker's head. You can do this one either side of the head with either of your hands. If that does not make sense, hold you hand up (palm facing forward) like you are going to wave bye to someone...just do half of the wave...see how your fingers are pointing out? Bingo! You got it.
To add to the above, if "you" (in the general sense, not necessarily specific to the OP) don't believe in qi, TCM or anything like that...it's all good. From a Western medical perspective you get a double whammy here too. The OP is right in his video that the palm strike is very effective due to what is happening to the brain. What makes things more effective here is that you are getting the brain going back and to the side ALMOST simultaneously. From a trauma standpoint (at least short term), more bang for the buck and good for you.
Take it up another notch...and this is difficult to describe...I can't do a video to show it...maybe in a few days if anyone is interested...As the hand performing the heel palm strike is coming in, "aim" with the finger tips almost all the way to the point where the hand connects to their head. Just as you are about to strike, "POP" the fingertips up (and relax the shoulder) so that this pop in your hand and the strike to the head only have a microsecond of each other. And if you do the "wipe" or "wave" I mentioned above within the next fraction of a second...well, then I pretty much guarantee you that the throat strike is not going to be necessary as Mr. Attacker is going to be taking a nap.
Just a note here in case someone posts back along these lines...
I am NOT advocating or saying that you should go "point hunting". Meaning, specifically, I am not saying that you can attack vital points (dian xue - 点穴 or kyusho - 急所) successfully in a combative situation all the time, every time. Fail your way to success...at the end of the day, end up with the heel palm strike (and go for the throat strike if you need/want to). Get any of the other stuff I mentioned in the process? Icing on the cake.
Hope that is of some interest or help...
Thanks for the information.. its very good info..TCM is not something that is mybstrong point although my sifu made me study it a bit
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This short video shows how the Floating Elbow Theory is applied using circular movements to stick,follow and redirect your opponets force.
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This video I made for my student but thought it might make a interesting video for other chunners as well... Am explaining to my student a simple drill I came up with on how to move the elbow in a circular way which is used to redirect incoming force or obsorb it.
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Thanks Glad both liked it.
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Using a palm strike to set up a finger strike to the throat. Having access to the neck is sometimes difficult as the chin can protect it so I use the palm strike to the face as a preemptive to expose the throat.
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Man, what jungle are you training in now!
If you did a deep enough first step, it seems like you could facilitate a nice takedown by blocking his heel when you do the knife to the throat.
I was in Florida for a few days... that was in a national park.. yeah I shoukd have done that...oh well next time
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It's cool you have these awards..
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No not fake just a miss spell sounds more like fock
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Using the double Fak Sao movement from the Siu Lin Tao..
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Immobilize their hand, and then rotate everything around it, essentially?
yeah am just rotation my arm in the direction of the foward pressure..I could also if need rotate my waist to to aid that.
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How to escape a pinned hand. Using a relaxed body to flow out of the pinned arm position.
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I will be on the St. Petersburg Florida from December 7th though the 9th. I'll be staying with a good friend and martial artist for some training.. I like extend my invitation to everyone who would like to get-together while am there for training..Any level is welcomed and is a free event..we will be training in a nearby park. If anyone is interested you can email you for more information for location and times..
Hope to see you there..
Mike.
Email. Sifumcilwrath@gmail.com
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I found this article very interesting. I admit, my knowledge of Wing Chun is quite limited. I would like to see your Center Point therory in action.
I plan on making more short videos on this subject and also like to write about it morein greater detail as well
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Sifu Michael McIlwrath
Nov,4 2021
I like to share how I feel about the martial art
called Wing Chun I've practiced for 40+ years.
A lot of people may think Wing Chun is a complete martial art , and feel compelled to keep it pure by only passing it on the way they have learnt it. Basically, Sifu says “do not inject your own ideas here”. However, others may feel differently that Wing Chun is a great martial art but an incomplete one, So some may feel the answer is to learn other arts like Bjj, Muy Thai or MMA to fill in their holes. Well, this will certainly make you a well rounded martial artist and perhaps a better fighter, but what does it do for your mother art Wing Chun? Did you make it better, did you progress the art further?
One drawback to learning multiple styles, to complement your Wing Chun takes resources and a long investment in time which could otherwise be used to mastering your Wing Chun. So what is the alternative?
My self what I've been doing with my Wing Chun is not learning a bunch of styles to improve myself and my Wing Chun, but instead have spent over a decade transforming my Wing chun or other words progressed my Wing Chun beyond the level I've been taught. Now this does not mean I've collected a bunch of techniques from other martial systems and imported them into my Wing Chun,but Instead what I've done is progressed my Wing Chun by going beyond what Wing Chun is known for such as Centerline Theory , and the immovable elbow concept to name but a few.
My idea was to find out what is Wing Chun's strong points and it's week points then using my basic tools to use them in a different or out of the box way. The first thing I've noticed about Wing Chun is that it's overly linear, and relies almost completely on the Centerline Theory for it to function. Another words, the weak point is its over use of the Centerline and your ability to maintain Centerline dominance. When two Chunners Chi Sao or Sparr they are always fighting over Centerline which usually comes into play an over use of force and strength which often not clash with the Centerline..
My first thought was why waste your time and energy fighting for Centerline. If your opponent wants Centerline, let him have it. Let him believe he has the superior position when in reality it's relative. It's the skill of the opponent not the Centerline that will determine the Victor. This idea is what I call Center point theory which is not using your Centerline, but locking onto the center point or mass of the opponent.. By doing this you can allow your opponent to take Centerline and not waste your time and energy fighting for Centerline dominance. Center point theory does not concern itself with keeping your elbow on Your Centerline and having the proper elbow distance to maintain, but instead locking onto your opponent's mass and thereby affecting their whole body not just a Limb like what happens most of the time when you're concerned about Centerline.
Center point Theory uses a floating elbow instead of the common Immovable elbow theory.The immovable elbow is used and needed for control over the Centerline, but with Center point theory the elbow simply floats like a boat on top of the water and moves to how the tides flow.
So what's the point of Center point theory? Well, it's my resolve to Centerline Theory not so much as a replacement but as the next level of Wing Chun development. You could say Wing Chun's 4th form called Center Point theory.Centerpoint is a continuation of the 3rd form. If Wing Chun's most advanced form is Bil Gee then I would say this comes next. Center point theory is designed to shut down your opponent Centerline.. If Wing Chun can only function if you have control over your Centerline then what can you do when it's taken away from you and you can take it back?
I know that the Biu Gee form deals with certain situations when your elbow is off Centerline and teaches you how to regain or cover it, but this the exception not the rule or what I call Standard operating procedure. The problem is Wing Chun can only optimally function by maintaining and controlling your centerline. Because Wing Chun's primary function was created as a Centerline fighting focused art. Surely, Wing Chun’s Centerline theory and usage is an extremely valuable and important guiding concept for the Wing Chun practitioner, But as fighting arts evolve and change, so must Wing Chun. As great as the foundational principle of the Centerline theory is, it can also be a weakness if one can only use their Wing Chun within those confined conditions.
So, isn't it time to progress your Wing Chun to the next level?
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I also noticed that it appeared that your partner just let go. But it also seems odd to grab both wrists, too. It seems more likely that one wrist would be grabbed, and the other hand used as a weapon to strike.
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what the video is about is the use of force , not about an application.
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I see its effectiveness, however, I'd still like to see it with resistance, that's just me. Either way, the thumbs are so useless whenever it comes to holding anything on an opponents body; thumbs are great for picking up inanimate objects.
Thank you for the video, stonecrusher69.
Actually without resistance it would not work.. I can feel all his force going into my body he's not just holding my wrist.. the pressure is going my core and am attaching my core to his and throwing him away because he's not grounded..maybe what you mean you what to see a struggle then I do it..
What I saw in your video was that your student was just letting go of your wrists, which is fine when in the teaching phase, then resistance afterwards.
you have to let go..its difficilt to hold on..its a strange feeling and you come up off the ground a bit..very hard to hold on its better to let go..
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I see its effectiveness, however, I'd still like to see it with resistance, that's just me. Either way, the thumbs are so useless whenever it comes to holding anything on an opponents body; thumbs are great for picking up inanimate objects.
Thank you for the video, stonecrusher69.
Actually without resistance it would not work.. I can feel all his force going into my body he's not just holding my wrist.. the pressure is going my core and am attaching my core to his and throwing him away because he's not grounded..maybe what you mean you what to see a struggle then I do it..
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in this video I show how to use not a technique but body mechanics to fling your opponent away using only little force.
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How to use and deal with pressure from your opponent without your Tan Sao collapsing..By keeping elbow anchored to your body this creates a stronger structure. By doing so your not relying on your shoulder strength but the whole of your body..This is whole body structure.
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Well, someone has to GET TO the centerline first. Transitioning and jamming can make that quite difficult by not remaining static longer than necessary. Both opponents have to guard their centerline!!
What am trying to do is to control my opponent centerl;ine by talking him off and not letting him get back..I call this centerpoint theory...since wingchunners
"talking him off"?? Please explain this? Thank you.
By controlling his elbow by moving it off the elbow line and controlling this vertical and horizontal axis the wing chunner techniques cant function..
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Well, someone has to GET TO the centerline first. Transitioning and jamming can make that quite difficult by not remaining static longer than necessary. Both opponents have to guard their centerline!!
What am trying to do is to control my opponent centerl;ine by talking him off and not letting him get back..I call this centerpoint theory...since wingchunners
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That's it....right there! The opening and closing of the centerline is due to that this and that, whatever they are at any given time, is not static, but moving towards any unknown target.
Am glad you liked the video..Like to do more on this in the future
Controlling your opponent at the point of contact
in Kung Fu, JKD, Wing Chun, Tai Chi, and Chinese Martial Arts
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I've made a lot of ajustments.. Like the first thing is Wing Chun is based on Centerline fighting however mine is based more on what I call Center Point which is just using your center mass to move and control your oppoent like a judo would do but appling it to a more striking art..This is also how I generate force by acceleratiing my mass and moving it around at the point of contact. In order to do this also requires different footwork,so I had to change that also..any many other things as well..