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What I mean is that when I have seen an ITF student performing a pattern, I have never seen punches executed in the way they would in a tournament/ sparring. I'm trying to search for an ITF TKD school, and would like to know what to expect. I know you said there is too much detail, but I would be very grateful if you could elaborate on the Jumping Punch. When I said "system of punching" I was just referring to the method of throwing punches in ITF, and as to how it originated. Thanks for your response mattyj, you responed to all of my questions.

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2VL0ON6VP1NPA18G97IJRKSFRZ Here is a video showing an ITF Taekwon-do match between Ri Chol Nam and another ITF TKD athlete from Europe. After this match, another match is shown between Ri Chol Nam and Hwang Su Il. Whilst watching this, I had a few question about ITF TKD. 1) The Jumping Punch In ITF TKD, is the jumping punch just listed as a technique that scores highly, or are ITF students explicitly taught step-by-step how to jump and how to throw the punch. Also, are there different types of jumping punch? And how did the jumping punch originate? 2) ITF Punching How are the punches used in ITF sparring taught and performed? Are the punches used in ITF matches adopted from boxing or another style or martial art? What makes ITF punching different to other martial arts. Also, how did this system of punching arise? As I have never seen it performed in tul, was was wondering how this type of punching came to be used 3) ITF Footwork What are the traits of ITF footwork that separate it from WTF. Being a WTF TKD practitioner, I did not notice any rapid switching of the feet (to confuse the opponent), just mainly switching stances and faking kicks. Also, is it prescribed to use the lead leg alot? 4) The ITF Round Kick In another thread, the ITF round kick, which uses the ball of the foot, was discussed. In this video, and others, a style of round kick is used very similar to Muay Thai, except the instep is used. The foot is not snapped, and the whole leg is swung like a bat into the opponent. The European practioner performs this kick and misses. Was this "swinging" kick adopted from another style or was it created by the ITF in response to problems caused by the techniques used before the advent of this kick. Thanx for your responses. Random Trivia: Hwang Su Il, aside from being the former ITF World Middleweight Champion, is also the man chosen to perform the moves used by the Tekken character "Hwoarang".

No need to thank me cjburns77. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, even if it took a while to make its way to you. Any feedback on the video from those who have seen it would be great e.g what parts you like the most, and what you never knew before. I will try to repost the vid for those who wish to see it. Remember to get the needed software beforehand using the link http://ld-anime.faireal.net/guide/ogm-en#what Hopefully the future uploads wont time out.

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2F9KEOB566ZPP36MY845UZI0PE Here it is. If anyone does download it, and the link expires, please rehost the video if others with to see. The file size is 698mb. Here is what's covered on the video: -The 8 elementary kicks of Tae Kwon Do which, when multiplied by the spinning motion of the body, form the sixteen basic kicks -Forward and Rear Leg attacks using the 16 kicks -Advancing and Retreating motions using the 16 kicks The kicking techniques are then expanded within the 4 primary footwork patterns: - Stepping - Sliding - Skipping - Jumping Combinations: In this part of the video, the techniques demonstrated in the video are then put together in sequence. Video Duration = 1hr 11min 52sec The video is an .ogm file, a type pioneered by Ogg Media. Before watching the vid, download the following 3 pieces of software found on the link below: http://ld-anime.faireal.net/guide/ogm-en#what Once you have installed those, run the video in Windows Media Player 6.4, you can find that in your Windows Media Player file folder, alongside your most recent version too. Enjoy!

Thanx for your response cjburns77. That's a very sound idea to incorporate both styles (WTF and ITF) into your inventory. I'm happy you liked the thread! The Art of High Impact Kicking will be hosted tonight, and tommorow on the 8th of April, the link will be posted. The file is 698mb, and it's 10pm at my end, so I'll host tonight on a temporary server called Yousendit. On this server, you upload your file onto their server, and your file stays on their server for 7 days, or 25 downloads, whichever comes first. I'll post the link tomorrow. If it's not too much trouble, would you mind rehosting the file once you've downloaded it? I'll be rehosting too, just until all the people who have wanted to see it have seen it. You'll love the video, honest. EDIT: O.K, the time is now 12.25pm on the 8th of April, and the Yousendit servers crashed on my download 5 times . I'll keep trying, and if it doesnt work, I'll use the Hi-Speed internet we have at University to upload the file quicker than using the home connection. That will probably be on Saturday or Sunday, most likely Saturday. In the meantime, does anyone have any suggestions on what other sites other than Yousendit would be appropriate for uploading files for others to download?

Thanks alot for all your responses, each new post brings so many new answers. In regards to the best striking surface, I tend to use the instep of the foot for the torso area only. To aim for the head during kyorugi, I use the sole of the foot (e.g hook kick, rising axe kick) in a fleeting motion. Personally, a ball-kick employed in a circular swing motion is telegraphed, so if I were to use it, I would aim 4/5 of those kicks to the torso, and on the last, look at the opponents torso area, but then aim high. Hopefully, the previous kicks have conditioned them to believe any progressive kicks will be towards the torso area, which will coax them into lowering their guard, and thus take the kick to the head. However, I wouldnt employ this method in class, it seems fit for competition if a knockout is your objective. This is not to say the instep cannot be used for the same purpose however. Just that IMO, the former would perform better in that context. Once again, thank you all for responding. Means a lot.

Thanx for your response Ninjanurse. When you said most Japanese systems use this "ball of the foot" method, does that include the swinging motion as well? If so, could you tell me which ones? I can only think of World Oyama Karate students who may use this method, Sensei Marco Lala in particular. He details that conditioning the ball of the foot is vital for both round kicks and front kick in his instructionals. He uses cinder blocks.

Thanx for your replies everyone. http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/history/map.htm According to this link, Tang Soo Do has its origins before General Choi's TKD. Does this mean that this "Military Style Round Kick" has its lineage from Tang Soo Do? I've read on other forums that Tang Soo Do has been referred to as the grandfather of TKD, but I can't find much info detailing the interaction between the two arts. http://tkdtutor.com/09Techniques/Kicks/RoundKicks.htm However this link states that the original TKD round kick was developed in response to ridding itself of Shotokan influences. Is it possible that General Choi drew new influences from Tang Soo Do, or was this new kick just a Shotokan roundhouse kick that General Choi modified to use a greater pivot and a pivot coupled with a swinging motion. I tend to use the lead turning kick in sparring to aim for the hogu, for me using the back leg for a turning kick is slower and feels unnatural, given that the hogu inhibits much of my hip movement. I haven't had the oppurtunity to break yet, but judging by most of the responses, the Round Kick that employs the ball of the foot might be the best idea. I've seen members of the TAGB use this circular round kick, but they are black belts, so I'm guessing that they have studied the Choong Moo pattern, and there instructors have taught them how to incorporate this movement into their arsenal.

Thank you both for your replies. Neclos, what is the Korean name for this "traditional" Tae Kwon Do you currently study, is it one originating from the orignal 7 Kwans prior to 1965? Also, would you guys like to view "The Art of High Impact Kicking"? It's a great instructional thats hard to get hold of. You can see how Hwang Jang Lee executes the traditional roundhouse, plus many more "different" techniques.

Have any of you Tae Kwon Do practioners (doesn't matter if you're ITF, WTF or AIMAA) been instructed in the Military-style Round Kick that was employed in TKD? I'm currently studying WTF Tae Kwon Do and our instructor teaches us a "Tolyeo Chagi" where a 180 degree pivot is employed, and a knee-whipping motion is utilised to deliver the kick. However, I recently watched a video starring Hwang Jang Lee called "The Art of High Impact Kicking", and the round kick he demonstrates is similar to a Muay Thai roundhouse, but the striking are is the ball of the foot/instep, and is aimed to hit an inch past the surface. He is credited as a Seventh-Degree WTF black belt, so I was wondering about the lineage of the TKD round kick. At what point in time was this round kick changed in favour of the new knee-whipping kick, and who was/were responsible for it? Or was the change in technique self-evolved. The link below details the differences between the two kicks, just for clarity. http://tkdtutor.com/09Techniques/Kicks/RoundKicks.htm I also have the Art of High Impact Kicking video on AVI file format. It is 1hr 12 mins in duration. If it does not go against the rules of this forum, and if you lot want to see it for yourself, I'd be happy to post it here for you to download. Bear in mind that the file size is 698mb, but well worth the watch. Thanx in advance for any kind responses.