what is YMMV?Also you should really start up that thread about conditioning in Uechi ryu as mentioned on the finger tip strikes thread,I think it would help everybody with their striking training.YMMV - Your Milage May Vary - (sorry geek speak). Sorry, I didn't see your reply. I've been so busy it hasn't been funny. I'll have to look at the other thread when I get a few minutes. lol, it's cool dude. I don;t get that much time to get on here either with work, school and training