CQC

Ted T., it's not a martial arts style, however it is indeed a style. Everything you meantioned seems fairly accurate, however, you have to remember the LINE system. For those you don't know what the LINE system is, it is basically just a system of close combat techniques focusing on wristlocks, counters against chokeholds, counters against punches and kicks, unarmed defense against the knife, knife fighting, "taking out" the enemy, and other unarmed defenses against things like a bayonet attack (obviously for Army personel). So as for attacking regardless of what the enemy is doing, that's untrue. Although the sole intent is to seriously hurt or even kill your opponent in most cases.

dingyuan, I agree, but there may be a time when someone won't care whether you die or not. Some people are simply out to kill, regardless of if you appease them or not. A situation like this may be highly, highly unlikely (especially here), but in my opinion it's good to know what measures to take as a "what if?" senario. And no, someone may not initially be that close to you when aiming a gun, however they could come closer to take a wallet or something else - or even you as a hostage for some reason. But, yes, over all agree..and this situation is highly, highly unlikely to happen if you're a civilian.

Alright, I'll give a discription of how to disarm someone pointing a gun at you, should you feel that your life is in danger, and there and there is no reasoning with the person or escape. 1) A person is holding a handgun in his/her right hand and is pointing it at your stomach/chest area, telling you to raise your hands. 2) Only raise your hands to head level. Keeping your elbows bent, place your hands just slightly in front of your face (finger tips should be in line with your chin/lower lip). These actions will let you use your hands to grasp the weapon quickly, without telegraphing your intentions. 3) Quickly, thrust your right hand toward the "top" of the gun above the handle, while simultaneously twisting your body to the right. Twisting your body to the right should remove you from the line of fire. 4) Firmly grasp the top of the gun with your right hand. Grasping it firmly will prevent it from turning. Also, as you grasp, push the weapon to your left, moving it yet farther away from you. 5) Having grasped the weapon with your right hand, prepare to grasp the barrel with your left hand. You will reach somewhat open palmly, your thumb facing upward. 6) Grasp the barrel of the weapon with your left hand. The barrel should be placed against the web of your left hand. 7) Twist the barrel toward the person by pushing on it with your left hand, while simultaneously twisting it with your right hand. Having twisted the barrel of the weapon into the person, forcefully pull the weapon toward you, barrel facing away from you. Simultaneously, step backward with your right leg. These actions should break and/or amputate the person's right index finger, assuming it was on the trigger. 9) Use appropriate follow-up procedures. Again, this is the very last thing you should ever do and is intended to be a worst case senario kind of thing. Hope this helps!

I certainly wouldn't say I'm a vet in the Hung Gar form, nor on this forum, although I can say with confidence that it's probably one of the best things I've taken up. And that's just not in martial arts or self-defense, but as a total system. You need to go into it, and any art, very open minded. If you're looking to become highly skilled in a few weeks, it won't happen. Also, Hung Gar training is very, very intense (at least at my school, where it is true Hung Gar). It's best to be in decent physical condition prior to attending classes, just to make it easier. At least get your legs conditioned a bit, as roughly 80% of the class is spent in horse stance..which will absolutely kill, but you'll feel amazing at the end of the class as well. And as for self-defense: Hung Gar is taught as warfare. You will, in time, be able to handle one or many opponents. Hung Gar is also very direct - there's no fancy kicking or anything radical like that. It's simple, direct, and to the point. Hope this helped!

Quick question about bodyguard work..how did you get started in that field? Was there a required course or "test" you had to take to prove yourself before you could take the job? I'm currently studying fairly hardcore in martial arts and other self-defense and weapons classes and am interested in personal security/bodyguard work at some point in the future. Any suggestions/thoughts/ideas of how to get started and/or recognized to do so? Any feedback is appreciated - thanks! *I didn't read the rest of the thread, so e-hit me or something if my questions have been answered*

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lol, smart move - I probably would have done something like that myself. It's definately a pain when you have to do the same task more than once - especially if it's a mundane one.

Haha, the first one is really neat. Sometimes I wonder how people come up with these ideas.

Jujitsu mainly focuses on manipulation of ones opponent in many different ways. In our Dojo we focus on striking, throws, joint locks, submission fighting etc. It's an extremely practical system as it focuses on many aspects of self-defense, not just grappling like BJJ, which makes it a more rounded martial art. If you are in it for self-defense, it's excellent - and you can successfully take down and opponent without seriously injuring them. It doesn't take a lot of time to get the basics down - just know that nothing comes easy. If you work hard and practice the techniques/stances at home, you'll learn a lot more quickly and things will definately come easier. As for Jiujitsu tournaments, I don't care for them. Most of them around here use an odd point system, and it mainly focuses on striking. If you do want something with tournaments etc, try judo as meantioned. Kung Fu tornaments are fun, but that's personal preference. Hope this helps!

Yeah, I only found one contact around here that offered it. CQC is regarded as a high level tactic. The technique was originally developed for when one might encounter multiple enemies that are in close proxmity to you, and when you have no idea from which direction the attack may come from. CQC combines hand-to-hand combat, knife and gun fighting into a complete combat system, using/defending against each weapon according to the situation. An example in steps: 1) Determine where the attack is coming from - shift the focus of the enemy attack off of you. 2) If the enemy comes punching at you, move to the right and dodge the enemy hand with your left hand. 3) Hook the serration of your knife onto the enemy's left arm and pull the enemy towards you. 4) Due to reflex, the enemy will pull back and try to stay in position. 5) Utilize the enemy's pulling back and you move forward. Hook your left leg onto the enemy's right leg and put the enemy off balance. 6) While using your natural force of your moving forward, stun the enemy by a blow in the enemy's chin. Note: With the leg hooked, the enemy cannot pull back further. With his/her chin being pushed against by the defender, he/she cannot move forward. The enemy is off balance and also defenseless. That's just one example of a potential defense if the defender is equipped with a knife.

Has anyone considered getting some CQC training in addition to their martial art? I've taken Kung Fu (Hung Gar), Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu and Japanese Jujitsu classes and I honestly thought I was doing extremely well and would be ready for nearly any street fighting senario if it came down to it. One night I was at a bar and got a gun pulled on me, and I honestly had no idea what to do to defend myself even though he was close to me. I know the first thing I tried to do was try and calm the person down, and do everything I could to get away from that person..but that didn't work out well. There's only so much speech can do when someone is extremely pissed off. The only weapon disarmament training I had was in Kung Fu, and that was with knives and sticks - a gun is a little more delicate in that type of situation, and the last thing I wanted to have to do was fight. Cutting to the end, two of my Kung Fu buddies jumped the guy and took him down quickly. After that incident I started thinking about some alternate training and heard of some self-defense classes that some army guy was putting on. Long story short, I signed up for some Close Quarters Combat classes and was off and running. Now, if it comes down to it, I can easily disarm someone with a gun or any other weapon. I've increased my martial art skill aswell, applying CQC techniques to Jujitsu and Kung Fu. Just a little post I thought some might like to read, my buddy was asking me about it the other day so I figured some may wonder about the same thing!

I'm biased, but a CQC (Close Quarters Combat) AND a grappling art would be cool for a superhero. It's more realistic in battle and is proven to be just as effective - from striking (boxing/Kung Fu style), ground fighting (Jiujitsu) to weapons disarmament etc. Although everything has their pros and cons, it's ideal pick up different arts to try and "fill in the gasps" so-to-speak. Personally, MA has taught me little in defense against guns, knifes etc. thus far - in that aspect CQC is much more effective for me. Hope this helps!

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Not much you can do about the banging I don't think. Unless you modify the bag so it doesn't hit the top board (or whatever it's attached to). It'll just take a little longer to come back to you. You could get 2 metal rods running them from the wall with a board (or whatever) at the end of them, screwing the board so that there's a space between the board and the wall. You can then attach the bag to the end of the board, and it will then hit the "space", thus making no noise, as opposed to the top board. If that makes sense..haha. Hope it helps a bit.

I took up Kung Fu for self-defense, and I have had to use it more than once. I'll just stick to telling a short story which was simply a "hardcore" sparring session with my friend. My friend has been taking TWD for roughly 5 years, so he has a fairly good grasp on techniques etc. We decided it was a good idea to have a friendly sparring match, just for fun. I considered myself a much better fighter prior to the fight, not because my style was better, but because I was just bigger, stronger and much faster and aware than him. We got into it, and it ended up on the ground a few times where I quickly put him in submission holds - and he had no idea whatsoever how to defend on the ground. At the beginning of the battle he'd attempt to execute various styles of kicks, and I'd either move in closer so that he could execute them, or simply dodge and counter. If he would have actually landed a kick to my upper arm or ribs, there's no doubt in my mind he could have broken them. As for other recent fights I've had no problem taking out people that have opposed me. Keep in mind those were situations where there was either no escape or potential weapons involved. Weather or not my street fighting techniques come from Kung Fu or CQC remains to be seen, although the more knowledge of fighting the merrier. Hope this helped!

Yeah, it's really a good idea to practice every aspect of a defensive MA, especially if it does happen to come down to a street fight. You always have to train for reaction time and muscle memory. In Kung Fu class we do constant fakes, kicks and punches, aiming for what we would consider "head height". One day my brother decides it's a good idea to smoke me in the arm a few times fairly hard (just for fun I guess), and I countered. Even though I swear I was aiming for his shoulder I smoked him right in the face. It was really odd, and when I meantioned it to my Sifu he said that it was most likely due to the routine I'd been doing everyday - it became instinct to counter and to counter at that particular area. Good training.

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The third book is called the Bourne Ultimatum, so I would assume the third movie would be under the same title. I really liked the Bourne Identity better, more action etc. Although the Supremacy had some really cool fighting scenes in small amounts. Awesome movies though, and nice fast paced fight scenes.