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Karate Kicked WOW!!! Three years to brown? That's crazy fast. Under Pedro Sauer...no way you get there that quickly unless you train 24/7 and are just a total phenom (then only maybe...very maybe...no... probably not even then). Who does he train with?

Ok, Thanks for the responses. I was just seeing if anyone here had trained in the system. In regards to the videos. I agree they are not very impressive. I just put it there to give you an idea of the arts. The system we use is not the Malay system, but the Tjimindi Teii system. Thanks again for your help.

Poekoelan, also spelled "pukulan," like Kung Fu, is just a general referance to Indonesian systems of combat art. However, Poekoelan Tjimindi Teii, is a combination of Southern Chinese animal forms and those animal forms that already existed in the Indonesian system. The animal forms studied in the Tjimindi (Cimande) system of Poekoelan are Crane (Blecock), Snake (Oler), Monkey (monjet), Tiger (Harimau & Matjenin)), and Dragon(naga). The animal forms studied in Teii are Mantis, Cobra, and Bear. The system was brought to America (western PA) by Mas Guru Willy Wetzel. He was an amazing instructor who taught many students. There is, however, discrepancy over how many experts he trained. It is impossible to know as he, tragically, died at the hands of his Son. Offically the courts ruled it self defense. However, there was an unsurmountable rift created by the students of each. That's all I am prepared to say about the rift in an open forum setting. There are two reasons for this. The number one reason is that I wasn't even alive when all of this happened. Therefore, it is not my place to blame either party or take sides. I just know it was a terrible tragedy. It is my goal to find some of the remaining Poekoelan masters and work to mend the rift. The first step is simple communication. The heart of the art is too beautiful to retain such an ugly scar. You may notice some spelling differances. This is due to the differance in using Dutch vs. Indonesian spelling. The third site is from a series of schools that stem from the teachings of Mas Guru (Goeroe) Barb Niggle. She is highly influential in the history of Poekoelan in America as she was the highest ranking student of the art when Guru Wetzel died. http://www.pukulan.net/ http://www2.1st.net/kingdrgn/ http://www.poekoelan.com/ If you have any more questions about the art, please feel free to ask.

Does anyone here study Poekoelan. I study Tjimindi Teii, but I am aware of other systems. It's not purely Chinese... but this is the closest forum I could find. If there are... with whom do you study? What system do you study? Do you have any interesting stories. Because of the sad past of the art within the US, few schools speak highly of one another. I would like to work to get past this barrier. Thank you.

I don't know where they're coming from. But I think one may be watching me as I ARRRRG...

There are three parts to the honor of a warrior. They are as follows: Duty (loyalty) Justice Courage Everythng else is a question of honor (yes, including honesty). Assuming the other instructor was lying about the tournament with the hopes of gaining a student, he is shifty and underhanded. These are loathesome qualities. Therefore, he is not worth the time of a warrior, he is beneath you. To truly be dutiful and loyal to your instructor in this instance, it is important to be sure your student knows the truth. We live in a time when justice is served by the law. Your unjust counterpart commits slander with his remarks. Take care of your student, don't give the fool another thought.

Good point Aodhan. PNF stretching does breed tremendous results. If, for some odd reason, you can't find anything on PNF stretching. Try Proprioceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation (PNF).

Take a copy of the contract to a local attourney. I realize it may be a little pricey at first. But it won't be as pricy as $200/month over 3 years. Which is way way way to high to begin with. Of course, if the school will let you out, work with them before getting an attourney involved. Just get everything in writing. You may feel like a jerk doing it, but it will save your butt later.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "powerful." In order to avoid complicating things and to keep the thread fun, I've compiled a list of my favorites to different targets. MOST DAMAGING To the Head: Hook Kick Thai Kick To the Body: Side Kick (pick one, they are all crushing) Thai Kick (great for punishing the ribs) To the legs/ foot: Side Kick to knee Tunda (crossing kick) to knee Stomping kick to instep MOST PAINFUL To The Head: They all hurt alot To the body: Thrusting front kick, using ball of foot, to the solar plexus Thai kick (to just about anywhere) Snaping front kick to the armpits Crescent kick to the radial nerves in the forearms of course, snap kick to the groin (actually a punting kick works very well here) To the legs: Thai Kick to common peronial Side/ Front kick to the shins Stomp on the instep MOST LIKELY TO TOPPLE AN OPPONENT (not necessarily due to damage) To the Head: They're all pretty effective if you hit the head To The Body: Wave Kick to the hara (center of gravity) Side kick (any) to the chest Front/ Cresent kick to the hip joint To the legs: Thai kick to the outer thigh (common peronial) Double leg sweep of course, any kick that breaks the knee joint also I guess my answer is... it really depends alot. But overall, my two favorite kicks are the side kick and the thai kick.

It is extremely important to have your muscles warm before trying to gain flexability. The best time for you to stretch is AFTER class or after a workout. Stretching done before a workout is simply to help avoid injury, not to gain flexability. Everyone is giving excellent advise otherwise. Stretch slowly, don't bounce, breathe, allow your body to relax into the stretch. Remember to only go until you feel slight discomfort, not pain. Pain while stretching is a signal of possible damage. Good luck.

I've always enjoyed watching masters of different systems spar. I'm not talking about the, "my system is better than yours" stuff. Just two highly skilled martial artists having fun. It's so calculated. I saw a Tae Kwon Do master fight a Shotokan master (Shihan). There wasn't much to speak of as far as a score. But the absolutely amazing timing of both was awesome. The TKD master pulled off some crazy combo of what seemed like 15 kicks while the Shotokan master was using some feirce punches. Not one of them ever made contact with the other. I hope everyone gets to see such a sight some day.

Let me see if I can adequately describe it. Imagine you are in a relaxed posture, facing forward. This means your toes are also facing forward. Now, without changing your feet, you look to the left. Your target is knee level. You raise your right knee (back leg) and thrust your heel toward the target, crossing your left leg. I have listed some differances between this kick, and the usual side kick. #1. It crosses in front of the lead leg with very minimal rotation of the hip. #2. The toes are still facing the same way, to the front of your position. As opposed to a 180 degree pivot of the body when they would face opposite. #3. The arch of the foot is facing up, as opposed to the blade of the foot being on top in a normal side kick. Other names for the kick include cross kick and tunda kick. As far as the fanning kick, it is a crescent kick moving from the outside to the inside. If the above description of the technique does not clear it up, let me know. I'll attempt another avenue.

Fanning kick = crescent kick 1. Basic standing front sweep. 2. self explanitory 3. when grabbed from behind, bring the heel into the groin from the ground 4. side kick to the knee 5. twisted side kick to the knee 6. self explanitory 7. crescent kick to the femorial artery (high inner thigh) 8. Spinning hook kick/ wheel kick, to the spine 9. self explanitory 10. self explanitory I know I didn't explain them. I simply worded them differently, using other terms for the same kicks. If you need more instruction, I would suggest you get in touch with a qualified instructor to demonstrate and teach them to you.

Ask a physician about this. It is not a normal reaction to such a basic movement. I'm not saying get scared and worry, just get it checked out.

You are correct, Professor Sauer is in Salt Lake City, Utah. We are affiliated with him.

TJS, The banana peel sounds like an elbow escape with aid from a hook! The exception is that you are choosing to stay in half guard (presumably to set up a sweep).

I am under Professor Pedro Sauer. Gracie Jiujitsu

I'm kind of reiterating what Karate 25 and Knees & Elbows said. The underhook game, with and without a gi, is very important. Also, if you're good with the halfguard, you can easily sweep a larger opponent to the bottom position. Once you're on top, stay there! Keep your positions tight. If you go for an arm bar, make sure you're hugging the arm, not holding it with your hands. Same goes for kneebar (be careful though). Of course, all of this is easier said than done. Number one most important thing is to keep drilling the techniques until they become instinct. Remember though, only PERFECT practice make perfect.

I would also find it hard to believe that the warrior class of ancient Japan would share techniques with the pesants. I can't offer any true evidence, since most of the techniques within that time period were taught within families and not written. The organization of the arts and writing them didn't really begin until the Meiji restoration. That being said, there are still several techniques within Karate that are very similar to or the same as the techniques of Jujitsu. This is true because there are only so many ways to break a bone or injure an organ with maximum efficency. The various Kata demonstrate many, many grappling techniques, which can be used both while standing and on the ground.

I thank you for taking the time to entertain my question. Once again, very well said.

USCMAAI, I have 2 points. #1, I liked the article. Very nice model. #2, How do you feel about the practice of arts/ techniques that were, at one time, combat effective (such as Kenjitsu or Iaido)? Certainly, they are not practical for today's fighting scenarios (military or civilian). But do you insist they are a waste of time. If yes, why? If no, why? p.s. I understand that study of weapon arts can make you more effective if you happen to pick something up off the ground in a street situation, but I think you understand my question. Thank you

Parkerlineage, Follow your heart on this and you will come to your conclusion. Some friends who have asked me to teach them I have. Others, I have refered to a formal school. Others yet, I have discouraged from the practice. I believe you've already decided what you should do. Now just do it. Remember, friends are friends because you can be honest with one another.

Why did you choose that name for "your" system? What is 9stn? Why do you feel your style is original enough to be called "yours?"

Assuming your story is true and you were polite in your requests, you did nothing wrong. Your instructor would inform you if you had. Students like your friend pop up all the time. If he didn't come back after that, it's because he was looking for an excuse not to go. He was not commited before you corrected him. He would have left eventually anyway. I see it has been a year since you posted this thread. I hope you read it still. There's still very much for you to learn. Tell us what you have learned (about teaching and the nature of students) since then. I am interrested.

Kenpofist, To say that Master Parker "coined the phrase Point of Origin" is a bold statement. I agree 100% with the concept. However, it was not a new concept, and was taught to him, just as it was taught to you and you will teach it to others. Remember, the martial arts and their concepts have no beginning and no end. Everything is circular.