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San soo taught me a more practical approach to the angle of your punch, which is that it should be based on the target and your angle of trajectory. The way i modified this approach, for training purposes, was to angle the punches based on how you would hold a 'wide' steering wheel (taking into account, and including, the way your body twists up or down when grasping the wheel from the top or bottom, respectively). Sticking to that PDF, the 3/4 decreases the possibility of wrist injury, although a 1/2 angle (as applied in wing chun) is far safer.

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Billy Jack is a classic

Okay, found something closer. A respected aikido school just 50 minutes away from you. Instructor: Greg Noble E-mail: gnoble@wvaikido.com Address: c/o 1085 Greenland Circle Phone: (304) 768-0697 South Charleston, WV 25309 URL: http://www.wvaikido.com/ You might also want to review some of the schools listed here (for proximity and styles): http://www.sports-info.us/martial/query.php

A little bit of hope for you. Tomodachi-ryu Judo Dojo 602 Pike Street and WVU-Parkersburg Parkersburg WV, 26101 (304)485-3200 Note: they offer aikido, aerobic kickboxing, jodo, judo, karate, kung-fu (what type, i have no idea), and tai-chi. The catch is, they're 135 miles from where you live. However, you should contact them and find out if they know of any 'individual' near you that can instruct in aikido, judo, or tai-chi. As well, posting at your local college can sometimes get some good results (i found many of my training partners that way and even found some on-campus martial art clubs). In short, don't despair... there's always a way.

Every Kurosawa movie Just about every Jackie Chan movie: Rumble in the Bronx Police Story Big Brawl (??) Police Story II Who am I? Drunken Master Drunken Master II and others...A must have, for the lighter side of things: Big Trouble in Little China I am Bruce

It is a good argument, except for one thing. A lethal strike, in most cases, is obvious. You know it will work, but prefer not to apply it. Granted, i haven't killed anyone (that i'm aware of), but that doesn't mean it's untested, only that i have not applied it. As always, practice is essential. If you practice to apply techniques, lethal or otherwise, they will be in your subconscious repertoire... in the event you need it. On a note: If you hold to the idea that dim mak works, without a clue as to what the hell it is, or how exactly it works... then that's foolish. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people out there that are foolish... so what can i say? The truth that i learned is that, once you've been exposed to a concept, if it doesn't make absolute common sense (like a lightbulb turning on in your head)... then it's crap.

Bah! Competitions are rough, regardless of what system you practice. Take it out of context and you will validate any argument posed.

Umm.. no. San soo and san shou are entirely different things. No relation whatsoever.

I'm inclined to agree with Karate_woman. While there will always be the pathetic and the predator, attraction toward another is not a 'wrong' thing. If i were to find someone i was attracted to in a dojo, i would likely 'check' to see if friendship was in the wings. However, i don't believe i would feel comfortable making any 'moves,' per se, in the training hall. This is a trapped atmosphere, much like a job or a college classroom. Becoming friends is entirely acceptable, but bringing it beyond that... it should be taken outside. I also do not believe there should be a differentiation between that of a student and an instructor. I did encounter one student that kept taking advantage of pauses in training to flirt with one particular student and i ended up having to correct him. My concern stemmed from the fact he was both distracting her and himself, which would eventually cause someone to be injured.

As many of us subconsciously know, labeling is a means to simplify. I'm rich, you're poor. You're ugly, i'm handsome. You're white, he's black. That's traditional, this is modern. Such things are crude shortcuts of communication. A means to cut through all the red tape of itemization and justification, to categorize things that are essentially relative. So... having said that, my view on the labels of traditional and that of modern, is that traditional systems hold to philosophical roots and incorporate a degree of ritual while modern does not. Boxing and wrestling has been around for ages, but nobody would call them traditional. And yet, we refer to aikido, judo, tkd, and most of the karate systems, babies (based on age) in comparison to the majority of Chinese systems, as traditional. Edit: One more thing i mark as the difference between that of traditional and that of modern. Resistance to change. Traditional systems adhere to the original doctrine, while modern systems do not. Boxing and wrestling have existed for centuries, yet they have undergone many changes, and will continue to do so.

Hehe... it's simply called, "Tanto." Got your email.

*cricket*

Japanese <> English uchi = inside soto = outside just my two cents: i'm sure most of the confusion associated with Japanese systems could be alleviated by calling the techniques by their English equivalents. After all, the names of the techniques are actually the Japanese descriptions of the actions. Really, it's kinda silly. I mean, when freestyle wrestling is taught in Japan, the techniques are translated (i.e., they don't call it a "seenghel-legh-taykdowen.")

*cringes at the play with words*

*cricket*

he has written a book? you have read it? wow i too am interested. i don't practice his art but i'll ask my sensei again. hehe, no i haven't read it. At about $300 a copy, i'm just not inclined to fork out that much spare change. Like i said, it's supposedly a very good book, cherished even by experts. Anyone who writes a book of the calibre... and who also creates their own style... it would be foolish not to find out more about him. Returning to the topic of this thread, no. Yoshisada did not develop the style being presented by Pell. It indicates that Kevin Pell created this system of jujutsu and presented it in 1990'.

Yeppers. The first UFCs, back in the early 90's, were a refreshing affirmation for me. I had spent the last decade peaceably arguing with stand-up fighters about the importance of learning ground techniques, and to watch the groundfighters dominate this 'virtually' no-holds barred competition just made me celebrate. It truly did tell me that i was on the right track all those years. Anyway, there are many things in these competitions that are not 'street,' and this is important to recognize. The floor is padded and even, the battlefield is bare (no dirt, pebbles, curbs, or hairy dogs to bite your shins), there are no available weapons, some attack options are simply not allowed (finger-breaking, eye-gouging, mouth-hooking, biting, etc), it is geared as a 'competition' and not a death-match (which does take away some combat options), both fighters are equipped (wearing the right clothes, shoes, mouthpiece, gloves, vaseline and oils), and they're both 'ready' for the conflict. I.e., they know what is about to happen (minimal element of surprise). All in all, the UFCs and similar are excellent competitions and i am truly glad they came out when they did, as there were entirely too many martial artists living 24/7 in pretty little opaque test tubes at the time. But, and it does need to be emphasized, it is a competition... and there are rules.

Hehe, a chance to debunk the debunking. In a ring, where you can look in front of you and subconsciously know where the ropes are, or when you are on a mat, with no obstacles... i might see your point. But, two things interfere with this in a 'normal' setting. One is obstacles and the other is footing. Obstacles in front of you are advantageous to you, as you can lead your character into them. Obstacles behind you are invisible to you, and serve your adversary. Footing is inconsistent. With the structure of our feet and legs, we are able to adjust far more easily to terrain inconsistencies (cracks, etc) when moving forward, than when moving back. Curbs, for example, are non-issues when moving forward, but a quick defeat when moving back. On a similar note, whatever direction you face, obstacles can be a distraction and it is important to understand your battlefield before entering into a conflict, as well as realize any changes made to it during a conflict. The catch here is... you're dealing with an immediate threat, right there in front of you. It is what you see and react to that you incorporate into your subconscious plans, but in an unexpected confrontation... all you'll have time to see, is what surrounds your adversary (which, hopefully, is in front of you), not necessarily what surrounds you (due to line-of-sight and your focus directed at your immediate threat... which is your adversary). Hmm... on cursory examination, this would seem so, but what's bothering me about it is that everytime you move back, you do expose yourself to being pressed*, similar to what you see here on the last fight in this video clip (fast forward to the end): Low Quality - http://216.40.244.4/highlights/03-VitorBelfortLQ.zip High Quality - http://216.40.244.4/highlights/03-VitorBelfortHQ.zip Granted, this is an unfair example, but it is nonetheless an example that brutally illustrates my debunk. * When you step back, you have already created momentum, however subtle. Any momentum, whether it be forward, backward, or to the side, can be exploited. It is a window of opportunity. Only experience will decrease the threat posed by such actions (returning to the old line i push every once in awhile, which is that expertise can never fully remove windows of opportunity, but they can always make them smaller and/or harder to open).

Turonaga... only thing i found on the gentleman you bring up, is a book he wrote about tantos (supposedly a very good, and very rare, book). I don't suppose you have more information you can provide on suzuki yoshisada and his art? I'm intrigued.

Same thing i experienced in high school. I would assume this is a national structure.

I recommend contacting these people to help you in locating something in your area: West Virginia Wing Chun Kuen Teacher: Michael Parriski Lineage: Sum Nung > Kwok Wan-Ping > Lee Chun-Ming > Bud Shapard (also taught by Al Miller) > Michael Parriski Location: BodyShop Fitness, Stratton Alley, Lewisburg, WV E-mail: Michael Parriski (oma00122@mail.wvnet.edu) Tel: (304) 647-4827 Virginia Yuen Kay Shan Wing Chun Kung Fu Teacher: Alton Miller Lineage: Sum Nung > Kwok Wan-Ping > Lee Chun-Ming > Al Miller E-Mail: Hieu V. Ralston (hralston@kreative.net) More Info: Virginia Yuen Kay San Wing Chun Kuen Web Page Charlottesville Lo Man Kam Wing Chun Kung Fu Association Tel: 804.513.4408 Email: aelward@hotmail.com Web: https://www.wingchun-sf.com Contact: John Kang Notes: The nephew of Grandmaster Yip Man, Sifu Lo Man Kam is well-known in Asia and Europe. His teaching methods emphasize developing a solid foundation, and stress sensitivity and structure over speed and strength. Informal classes are being held by John Kang, a direct student of Sifu Lo in Taiwan, on the UVa campus. For more information about the curriculum, please visit the website listed above. Please contact John Kang directly at the e-mail or phone number above for information about joining the class. Fairfax Canton Wing Chun Kung Fu 9926 Main Street, Suite 201, Fairfax VA 22031 Email: wingchuninfo@cox.net Notes: Yuen Kay Shan Wing Chun System. Fairfax Wing Chun Gung Fu Institute; Ip Ching Wing Chun Athletic Association 11804 Federalist Way, Fairfax, VA 22030 Tel/Fax: (703) 234-3950 ext.5541 Email: mxshan@crosslink.net Web: https://www.geocities.com/mattshannon1 Contact: Matthew Shannon Notes: Grandmaster Ip Ching's Wing Chun now has a school in Fairfax, Virginia. We are official representatives of the Ip Ching Wing Chun Athletic Association and the Hong Kong Ving Tsun Athletic Association. We are the only school in the Northern Virginia/Metro DC area certified by Sigung Ip. Sigung Ip is one of only four surviving elders of the HKVT Athletic Association. Lake Ridge Lake Ridge Wing Chun Tel: 703.491.0194 Email: lrwc@hotmail.com Web: https://www.lakeridgewingchun.net Contact: Jo Gau Darris Larsen Notes: Ip Man Family Style of Wing Chun under the lineage of Grandmaster Ip Ching. Located in Northern Virginia 25 miles south of Washington, DC. Newport News Ip Ching Wing Chun Athletic Association of Virginia 811 79th Street, Newport News, VA 23605 Tel: (757) 838-0103 or 886-9651 Email: virginiawingchun@aol.com Web: https://www.wingchunkungfu.cc Contact: Tony Massengill Notes: Official Virginia representative of Grandmaster Ip Ching. Instruction in the original and authentic Ip Man Wing Chun system. Grandmaster Ip Ching's strict standards insure that his father's Wing Chun system will be passed on to the next generation in it's purest form. Instructors under the Grandmaster must demonstrate the highest level of knowledge and skill in his father's system in order to be recognized by the association. Students interested in training in the Authentic Wing Chun system as taught by Grandmaster Ip Man should call for an appointment. (Good training without the bad attitude). For more information on our school and Association, visit our Association web site at: https://www.wckfc.com Norfolk Wing Chun Kung Fu Academy, Inc. P.O. Box 14052, Norfolk, VA 23518-0052 Tel: (757) 480-3183 Email: Pon_Eau@hotmail.com Contact: Sifu David Meadows Notes: Sifu David Meadows was taught the Wing Chun style from May 10, 1976 through June 1, 1980 and is one of the early disciples of Sifu Shiu Hung (Duncan) Leung. Sifu Leung is one of the early disciples of Grandmaster Yip Man and trained at Yip Man's Hong Kong Kwoon from 1955 through 1959. Sifu Meadows teaches pure and undiluted Wing Chun in a traditional setting, tailoring to each student's needs, with emphasis on effective fighting technique. Richmond Moy Yat Ving Tsun Kung Fu Acadamy, West End Branch 2100 Bremo Road Suite 201, Richmond, VA 23230 Tel: 804-405-1788 Email: myvingtsun@hotmail.com Contact: Barry Walton Notes: Small group and private lessons. No contracts. Lo Man Kam Wing Chun Association Tel: 804.615.7754 Email: aelward@hotmail.com Web: https://www.wingchun-sf.com Contact: John Kang Notes: The nephew of Grandmaster Yip Man, Sifu Lo Man Kam is well-known in Asia and Europe. His teaching methods emphasize developing a solid foundation, and stress sensitivity and structure over speed and strength. Informal classes are being held by John Kang, a direct student of Sifu Lo in Taiwan. For more information about the curriculum, please visit the website listed above. Please contact John Kang directly at the e-mail or phone number above for information about joining the class. Moy Yat Kung Fu Academy 300 A W. Cary Street, Richmond, VA 23225 Tel: 804.497.7555 Email: bfob@yahoo.com Contact: Sifu Marcus Evans, Sifu Barry O'Brien, Sifu Stuart Zeno Notes: Traditional Ving Tsun Vienna Yuen Kay San Wing Chun Email: wingchuninfo@cox.net Web: http://members.cox.net/hralston Notes: Yuen Kay San Wing Chun taught by Sifu Alton Miller to the public in Vienna, Virginia. Contact email for more information. Virginia Beach Duncan Leung's Wing Chun Kung Fu School 3101 Silina Drive #102, Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Tel: (757) 486-8999 Email: cgoss@ibm.net Web: members.tripod.com/~Wing_Chun/hpageie.html Contact: Wayne Goss Notes: Sifu Duncan Leung is a disciple of Grand Master Yip Man. He has taught Wing Chun in Virginia Beach since 1975. I have been his student since 1975. His approach to teaching Wing Chun is very practical with no formalities. He teaches Wing Chun as a system which each student incorporates into their own style. A 2 hour tape of Sifu Leung explaining the principles of Wing Chun and the basics of Chi Sao is available through the web site. Lo Man Kam Wing Chun Kung Fu Association 3101 Silina Dr.102, Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Tel: (757) 486-8999 Fax: (757) 463-1997 Contact: Gorden Lu Moy Yat Ving Tsun Kung Fu Association 1025 Eaglewood Drive, Virginia Beach, VA 23454 Tel: 757.450.6076 Contact: Robert Squatrito

*raises hand* I wanted to learn to fight like me.

I would tend to agree with you ramy. Using martial arts as a means to sell your religion is no more honest than using religion to sell your martial arts. The thing here is, dedicated practitioners view their martial arts as a way of life. Same can be said of a devoutly religious person. His religion becomes a way of life. Because of this, people sometimes find a conflict. What 'path' should they follow? Each must stand on their own, but finding a way to bring both your 'ways of living' into a state of harmony... is sometimes a tricky task, especially if there is an underlying 'alternative' belief system associated with the martial art system you study. And that's another factor. Many traditional martial art systems already do serve as vehicles to express a belief system (pa-kua and aikido being two obvious examples). Tough call, and something i suppose i should chat more about here, when i'm in the mood for heavy and emotional debate. At the moment, i'm not.