Lord Apocalypse

Hmmm...after the thumb grab, whilst still holding their thumbs perform the next sequence, if i am seeing this right in my head, you will have pulled the opponents arm in a lock with your left arm and be shuto-ing their neck, then the grab could simply be a neck break or take down, hence the turn at 45 degrees into the next set of horse stance face block things.

Bassai dai is quite good but my favourite kata is easily Naihanchi!

Sauzin, that is the part after what i'm talking about, but what you have said has just further convinced me of some applications for that. A trend i have noticed in kata is that when the arms come up in that way there is almost always a 45 degree turn which suggest moving out of the effective range of the punch/swing/hook etc whilst covering. The part i am asking about is, in our style we start with left hand crossedover right at about waist level with the heels together and pointing outward, then hands to hikite at the same time our heels move outward but the toes are still touching then the arms push down towards the floor, it then goes on to the horse stance hands up to face bit. Gojo1, that sounds to be the right bit i think...will experiment with that and see what else i can come up with.

Hello all, thought it was about time i registered instead of just reading. A bit about me, i'm a 20 year old brown belt practitioner of Shukokai/Shito Ryu Karate and am most interested in kata and applications as quite a few of you are So with that out of the way i have recently began looking at seienchin in more detail and have a question on other people's applications, The starting salutation thing, where both hands come to hikite, then the feet turn heel outward to form what we call the funky stance(unsure of proper name) then the arms push downwards. Application wise me and my buddy can't come up with anything, i should point out that my club is sadly more sport orientated and on the rare occasions that we have kata classes, some of the applications are very unrealistic, ie blocking a kick with gedan barai then turning round to face another attacker and block punch etc, so me and my buddy are attempting to sort the balance., with books and vids, namely iain abernethy and russel stutley and the dsi along with getting into situations on the mat and thinking about them in my sleep nearly. So can anyone help me out with some ideas on applications for this. Oh and sorry for the long first post, i ain't usually this boring. hey cool smilies