panginoon

I do Kobayashi Shorin Ryu. .................................... I did Kobayashi for 2 years under the Iha lineage. What is your lineage? Also there are way too many fricking katas in that system.

I do Kobayashi Shorin Ryu and there is a big emphasis on conditioning. I kick and punch a makiwara every day and also use an iron palm bag (filled with steel shot) and have a pot of rocks I thrust my fingers into every day as well. This did take a significant building up to though. I've only really recently started training my fingers though, to brush up on all those pressure point techniques... I think its hard for most people to do especially in America because i think it would turn of most people. And they really do want those membership dues... Mebbe we should take a poll on how many people know what a makiwara is? ........................................................... You sorta helped prove my point. You are only conditioning your hands. What about the rest of your body?

Yes I have done quite a bit of reading on the subject. If you want to post YOUR version of the history then go right ahead. ................................................... Thats a nice mindset you have there. Unfortunatley you are dead wrong. Your history is hand-me-down, where it deevolves into legend. You probally also believe that Karateka trained to punch through Samurai armour too

Heck yes we are! The lineage goes like this. The Okinawans were at war with the Japanese invaders, and were not aloud to use weapons. They figured out they could use farm tools as weapons and made the art of kobudo. Well, the Japs already had there own style of kickboxing cooked up, and the Okinawans adopted it. The Chinese also passed through trading and selling things, and brought with them Kung Fu. The Okinawans mixed the hardness of the Kickboxing with the roundness of Kung Fu to make Okinawan Karate. That's why Okinawan Karate has better grappling than Japanese. Two main schools of thought evolved, Shorin ryu and a competing school. Shorin ryu branched off into the three main Okinawan styles, and the other school developed Shotokan. So our style is one of the oldest Karates out there. We use high stances, and learn the principals to make self defence moves for variuos holds. Once you have a black belt and about four years of experience and alot of hard training, you will have some very street effective material. ......................................................................... Your is history is VERY WRONG! Shorin-ryu developed from Tomari-Ti, Shuri-Ti and Chaun FA. It was not used to fight the Satsuma clan. It was used by the upper class to defend themselves from attackers. Try reading real history and not the garbage that is made up to make Karate look like it came from noble orgins.

Intresting. Could you please site your source for the origins of the ridgeand. The earlist I cant trac it back in Okinawan Karate is to about the 1850's.

I've been going to watch classes at my dojo pretty frequently. I went on friday at 8:00 to watch some sparring. Durnign one of the matches one of the poeple tried to kick the person but they blocked it the wrong way and broke the forearm. It was really bad too I saw it when she was walking out and the bone was bulging out of the flesh. Just wondering does this happen often at your dojos? People breaking limbs? ........................................................ The only injuries I have seen in my dojo is the blocking a front kick with an elbow to the ankle joint. While sparring TKD fellow I did a down block onto his shin and fractured it. If he conditioned his shins he would have been ok. Sounds like the people at that dojo were sparring past the level of their abilities.

I know that black belts can be prematurely "aged" with sandpaper, etc, and the silk ones age earlier than the others, but I can't help looking at other black belts with worn, frayed looking black belts (that are turning white), and think back to the lessons about how the original belts were white, turned black with age, and then back to white again.......and go WOW! I'm just a sucker for it I guess. I wouldn't dream of prematurely stressing my belt; when it ages and turns white it will be because I've worn it for ages and ages...it is cotton and not silk and it will take quite a while. Anyone else a sucker for it? ...................................................... Belts turning black is a myth. A white belt may turn tan or MAYBE brown but never black. It is a good story but not true at all.

Hey there is no reason to fell out of place because of your gender. I know some women who could beat the crap outa me, you just need to work to your potential. Tune out or ignore those idiots.

I know of a couple Ki techniques, they are hard to explain. But the invlove crossing the oppendents center line with your hand.

Don't Kia, when your mouth opens it weakens your muscualr system. Try lifting or holding something with an open mouth. Breat out with a sharp hiss with your teeth closed.

Interesting. I'd have to play with it before I adopt or give an opinion. Just thinking about it I can see advantages and disadvantages. For exampe, I don't think it is mechanically stronger, as the author said. In act, it is weaker. But that weaker, yielding block taken on a double bone structure could prevent injury. Good one to toy with in a slow training session. Thanks for the link. pang, the outside block is crap if done in a crappy manner. But I've used it in a variety of situations and for numerous reasons, and it worked well. I've even been known to use it as an entry move to check the opponents arm against his chest, or to position and gain cntrol. It is a designed block that works well. But to each his own. omni, maybe you could give some other pointrs on the use of the double bone block. What do you think about its strengths, weakneses, usefulness? ................................................................ I believe that the outside block is an arcahic(ms) move. It is slow ineffective and leaves one open to joint manipulation. I use the boxing block that sorta lools like the outside block except that i turn my whole body. The Shuto block is far better.

When i mean conditioning I mean gradualing desensitising and strengthening through striking a particular area (shine arms legs)

Never had trouble with the single bone block. I have (accidently) broken peoples feet with it. The double bone block seems to lack power, since it is executed much like a back fist. the Single block is more like a hammerfist which is significantly more powerful than a backfst. one more thing, the Karate outside bock is crap. Noone uses that outside of kyu kumite. My oustside block is the shuto block.

Hmm...... Dont really agree with that............. But I have explained this a few times before in past threads. Look them up if your interested. ........................................ No thanks I am closed minded. Anyhow I would not mind learning Aikido, but only as an addition to what I know. On it's own I do not think it would take you far in a fight especially if the attcker can kick.

There is some misunderstanding here. What i mean by conditioning is the gradual desensitation and strengthening of body parts by striking them. I diagree with SubmissionFighter. Heavy bags only do mild conditioning on the average. Not only that but most dojos don't do any real conditioning at all. In my MA gym class at my college I sapr all sorts of other styles. I find that I have to tone down my blocks quite abit to avoid injuring other Black Belts! that is pathetic, not being able to take a block as a BB.