Hi BonnyBoy Since December I have been on a real drive to lose weight. The biggest effect so far has been changing the way I eat. I believe carbs play an important role in our health but we eat them too often and at the wrong time of the day. I gave up carbs after lunchtime. At first this was really hard. For dinner I would used to have pasta or rice etc. Now I have fruit+veg and some meat (Fish, chicken etc) For the first 1-2 weeks I would be hungry 1-2hours later but I am over that now. I have a lot more energy, I am losing weight and plan to start Karate next week I look at it this way. If Carbs give us energy, then why eat them at the *end* of the day? Tancred