Thanks, Zanshin. I just couldn't think of the term. I added it to the title of the thread. So, who would it be for you, Zanshin? Would it be the name you listed? In Wado Karate: Takagi Hideho / Arakawa (Toru or Takamasa) / Hakoishi Katsumi to name but a few. In Koryu: Toby Threadgill - Shindo Yoshin Ryu (he is American btw) Shogen Okobayashi - Daito Ryu Aiki-jujutsu But alas, I do not have 6 lifetimes to spare. Z Hi there, first post here. I'm AJ. Copy your list of Wadoryu in Japan and add Mr. Takashima, Mr. Kondo and Mr. Ashihara and not to forget Mr. J. Ohtsuka But who will "give up" his regular life to go away for a year? I really can't imagine myself doing so... AJ van Dijk, Gorinchem - Netherlands