tallgeese

3.5 mile run today

Very nice to get that reminder occassionally. Very big of you to admit it. I've had these experiances from time to time as well. They are very enlightening when you take them the way you have.

I voted with the "no, but..." option, just because I think we really have to deal with the realities of how disadvantaged we are when facing multiple attackers. Seriously, one dude to engage in any sort of grapple, as simple as grabbing you around the waist and trying to pull you down, and a second to start punding on you while your mobility is limited. It's not an easy thing to overcome for anyone. Even MMAers with solid takedown defese are going to have a hard time dealing with the above situation. It's enevitable. That being said, you have to set you mind to blast thru everything nad everyone. We can split theory here, but once it's on out there, you have to beleive that no piece of garbage is going to beat you, no matter how many friends he has. That's the only mindset that will even hope to carry you thru this type of conflict. Good question.

Yeah, how many times do you think his friends have sent him that link?

It takes skill anywhere with the firearm, even from close ranges. Simple tasks such as weapon manipulation can become very difficult under the pressure of actually need. Jerking the trigger has been the cause of many misses from even very short distance. There is a signifigant science to the use of a firearm, no matter what teh range is.

Good luck.

Probibly not. Butyou still know way to much Japaneese .

Good point. At best, if we actaully want to walk away from training let alone continue to do it day after day is accept certain training protocols. I see where you're going there.

I always enjoy sitting on testing boards. It's a real fun time. FOr us, when it's a higher rank. BB's from out of town usually come in to help. That's a good excuse to see old training partners. For today- crossfit was 120 dips 120 pullups (Got to 50 w sets of 10. Then a couple of more at 5. Had to do assisted from then on out.)

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Is the back foot in line with the front, or set shoulder width or so off? Mine's offset by about shoulder width. As far as the actual foot position goes, I alway prefer to keep the pack foot pointed at the bad guy as well, this assist in movment forward and back. It also tends to keep the knee bent. The heel is up that way, so you don't get settled into a spot. My front foot turns in just a hair. That way, when it's raised, it brings the knee over just enough to cover the groin from attacks from the front. The foot position this way dosen't keep you "square" to h im, but cants the upper body to about 45 degrees. This keeps the weapons in play and give your body a bit of angle to deflet things at it. It's actually pretty close to ba boxing type stace and lets you move well.

I do highly agree with bushi on a point made above. An art, purpotedly designed to be effective in sd situations, should increase your ability to take care of yourself drastically in six months to a year. No, it won't make you an expert or a "master" or some such nonsense, but you should see a dramatic increse in skill set or range in which that art specalizes. It should be able to do this agaist ar least simulated real attacks. Now, for a joint manip. heavy art, maybe thats the equivalet of being able to effectily apply a manuver from a realistic grab attack. In aikido, maybe it's a signifigant enough understanding of body movement to be able to flow away from an attack without actual joint manipulation. Anything longer could likley be more efficient in it's methodology.

Just a brief comment about the armoring up. I agree with a bulk of what you're saying Jim. However, training with heavy armor has it's place. It really lets you t-off on partners without fear of injury quite as much. No, it won't be there in reality. However, training this way from time to time is benifical in working at speed against heavy aggression. It is also excellent mindset training. Should it be the only way you're training? No way. I agree that you have to take hits to learn this game. It's the only way to really know how to deal with it. It's a tool in the training tool box, noting more or less.

Does "at a side" you mean a side stance? Or refer to the relationship between you and the bad guy? I've never been a fan of stances that moved you too much to your side. It give the attacker too much access to gain your back and takes at minimum two of your weapons out of play by placing them at the rear of the fight. It' much better, IMO, to keep a bit more squared off. More like a boxing stance. This way all your weapons are closer to the action. You can also move better in response to h is attackes. If you're refering to being at his side, with all your weapons facing him (or relitively facing him) then it's a great spot to be. Most times due to the fluidity of a fight though you wont be able to maintain it longterm. Best capitalize if you get it.

Well, give us the blow by blow...

Ok, that was pretty good.

Couldn't agree more with your response to the article Jim. You summed up pretty much everything I was thinking while reading it very nicely. On the Krav, I have see some schools that highly emphsis transition to and from weapons, giving them yet another distinct advantage. Again, milage will vary depending on who you train with. As for the LE side of things, I think not nearly enough time is spent dealing with the grappling aspect of suspect control. My ground skills h ave done nothing but help me, even while I'm carrying all that stuff around. Is it different, sure. Which means that LE's should be traiinng on occasion with all their gear on. They should also be working on retreiving their primary weapon while in several positions and getting it to a firing position. Right now, the overriding school of though seems to be "just don't go down", and yet most all the actual training in DT done by departments won't even talk about takedown defense, let alone actually working out of bad spots once you're there. There are a few notable exceptions, but they are that, exceptions. There is also alot of garbage out there in the LE community when it comes to ground fighting that wouldn't work on an untrained mope, let alone anyone with skill. And there are more of those people out there all the time with the increase in the popularity of MMA events. Way too many to have such a little emphsis placed on it community wide. For some reason, nobody ever seems to consider that the average high school wrestler could probibly dump the average patrol cop on his back without a ton of effort. Not to mention that to get cuffs on, as Jim mentioned, you've got to be hands on with this guy. In other words, you're in tight proximity. Just where a half trained grappler all drunked up would think it a good idea to tie up and go to the ground. Grappling skills should definalty be taught more in LE applications. Both standing jujutsu (a japaneese background) and BJJ have both been verry handy to me in the past. Sorry, now I'm ranting . I think I started just trying to say I agreed with Jim

crossfit- 20 min, constant motion: 1/2 mile runs pullups to max repeat back/bis taught one on one with one of the younger guys today. OFcused on striking in combination followed by adding a takedown, to ground and pound work. 40 min total

Not named as such, but then again we try not to do too much labeling. A good understanding of use of force laws in our locality was always a priority, but not an actual series of levels as taught. Typically, as I think back, we tended to adhear to the one+one theory. Or the one level above as you mentioned. I suppose that teaching this could be benifical to a ma-ist. Even a cop now for several years, I can't say that I go into detail with this type of continuum with the guys I train with now. I think that we can go overboard sometimes in "listing" things for students. So, I try to keep it to a minimum. Major principles and such. It's less thinking to get in the way of fighting once your tools are engrained in you thinking. A degree of it is needed simply due to the nature of trying to pass on ideas. However, sometimes it's taken out of hand. Still, this one probibly wouldn't be a bad idea.

Bummer about the punching rules for only straight movements. This would seem to really limit the amout of time for working a very intuitive weapon for those who utilize t his mehtod of training often. Not to mention that you're taking away some very effective combinations that could lend themselves well to setting up more kicks.

Assuming that you are within a contact range to gain control of the barrel, maybe it's a better option for you given the above statement. Beyond that, the hand gun is real bad news for you if the weilder is even half skilled. Just out of curiosity, unknown, why the personal choice of the knife? Training background or phyliosphical?

Tenants for off the mat activities- not so much. We're a pretty individualistic organization so some of the schools are more into this than others. For me, the closest thing is the core princiiple I try to teach around: evade, stun, unbalance, and control.

I don't think it matters much as to how often you change partners. Different energies are good and practice with different body mechanics are a must. Probibly the size of the club will dictate how often you rotate. In the end, learning to adapt is the important thing.

It goes back to articulation of the facts and presenting your fear for your life and why the attacker presented a threat that coupld cause you death or great bodily harm. Detail is the key. But, he must actually rise to that level before you escalte.

Yeah, combatives always suffer in coverage. Even boxing was hard to come by. Forget wrestling or judo.