Transcendence Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 >How about YOU tell us of a bad BJJ black belt? I'm not saying I know a bad one, I am saying the statement that they are all good based upon zero evidence is ridiculous and juvenile. >I'm not going to get into an argument about logic over this - it's pointless. So was your contention. >It's common knowledge that BJJ black belts are awesome grapplers - and unless you can point one out who isn't (good luck), then you don't have a leg to stand on. Neither does the first part of this sentence unless you can name every single BJJ black belt and prove to me that they are all 'awesome grapplers'. Generalizations are, to quote you, "pointless".
JohnnyS Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 You guys are a joke. >So was your contention. It wasn't my contention - it was the original posters belief that I (and everyone else I've met) happen to agree with. I have a belief, along with probably every other person that does BJJ or Judo or any other grappling art, that BJJ black belts are awesome grapplers. How can I possibly prove that every BJJ black belt is awesome - and who defines what awesome is? I can't obviously, but since I've been in the game for a long time and have NEVER heard of a bad one, that I think it's safe to assume that when people say that BJJ black belts are awesome then they are correct and they aren't making a false sterotype. Stop playing word games and go train. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
Cybren Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 How can I possibly prove that every BJJ black belt is awesome - and who defines what awesome is? I can't obviously, but since I've been in the game for a long time and have NEVER heard of a bad one, that I think it's safe to assume that when people say that BJJ black belts are awesome then they are correct and they aren't making a false sterotype.
JohnnyS Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Listen idiot, Do you even know any BJJ black belts, or have you even trained in BJJ? Or are you just trying to play silly word games in the vain hope that you might win this because you can't win in a fight? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
Cybren Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 The only person who qualifies as an idiot is you. I'm not saying that they aren't, i'm saying that it's a large assumption for the topic starter to base his opinion on an entire school of fighting from one person.
JohnnyS Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 So you know nothing about BJJ, yet you decide to waste our time and give us a lesson on political correctness and how there are no absolutes in life? Thanks, but the only person that looks like an idiot is you BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
Cybren Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 This hias nothing to do with political correctness. Nor does anyones experience in BJJ in anyway hold relevence in the discussion
JohnnyS Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 Actually, knowing something about BJJ does hold relevance to the discussion. The original poster wrote "I had long heard that BJJ blackbelts were awesome and all but DAMN" It's well documented that BJJ black belts are awesome grapplers (look around the 'net) for more stories, or go to some forums and ask. But you, knowing nothing about BJJ decide "It's not possible that ALL BJJ black belts are awesome" and give us a lecture on stereotyping. What you say might be correct if you had even some anecdotal evidence to the contrary, but you don't. You don't even know anything about BJJ, but YOU decide it cannot possibly be true that bjj black belts are awesome (because there are no absolutes right?). If you knew anything at all about BJJ, you'd truly know how ridiculous you sound. Go do some homework. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
JohnnyS Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 So perhaps you could tell us what the evidence would be? How can we empirically define what awesome is, and what skills one would have to have to be called "awesome"? What evidence do you require? If someone made the statement "I knew Ferrari's were awesome but DAMN!" would you then point out that the person making the statement hadn't driven every possible Ferrari and would have no way of knowing that? Or would you think, "Hmmm, Ferrari's have a reputation for excellence so perhaps this person is right in their opinion?" Perhaps you should give up your silly word games because you're being boorish and sounding like a fool. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt
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