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Which kata are included in Isshin Ryu? Do they all contain the vertial fist punch? What is the reason for punching this way? I've heard a couple of reasons but not sure which one is correct.
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IshinRyu has 8 empty hand katas, the only one that punches with the twist punch is Sanchin.

 

The verticle punch not only reduces the changes of breaking the wrist by improper twisting --- it has the potential to be faster and more effective when properly executed and mastered (** I'm not here to dispute this with anyone -- I study IsshinRyu and ShorinRyu and find both punches effective, but that is the reason behind the straight punch**)

 

Kita

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IshinRyu has 8 empty hand katas, the only one that punches with the twist punch is Sanchin.

 

Depends on the group you're with, some do this as vertical as well.

 

Why is it used? Cause Tatsuo Shimabuku prefered it, it's really that simple. He felt it was a better punch, likely because of the influence of his main teacher, Chotoku Kyan, who also liked it.

 

Seisan

 

Seuichin

 

Naihanchi

 

Wansu

 

Sanchin

 

Chinto

 

Kusanku

 

Sunsu

 

Tokemine no Kun

 

Urashi Bo

 

Shishi no Kun

 

Kyan no sai*

 

Kusanku sai

 

Chantan Yara no Sai

 

Hamahiga no tonfa*

 

*Not all groups do these.


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Shimabuku, Tatsuo studied under his uncle initially (couldn't find a name). He also studied under Kiyan, Chotoku; Motobu, Choki; Miyagi, Chojun and kobujutsu from Taira, Shinken and Yabiku, Moden.

 

His empty hand katas were:

 

Sanchin

 

Seiunchin from Goju Ryu

 

Seisan

 

Naihanchi

 

Chinto from Shorin Ryu

 

Wansu

 

Kusanku

 

Suansu combination kata made from others

 

I couldn't find anything on the weapon katas but AndrewGreen's seem to all be correct. Again, I'm not an Isshin Ryu stylist, just a martial history buff.

A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.

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Andrew good info! So some schools do Sanchin with a verticle punch too --- well you learn something new everyday!
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Actually we did that --- but its a much faster punch concentrating on speed instead of the isometric breathing and focus of sanchin.
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AndrewGreen could you tell me which kobujutsu masters he did train with and your sources? I like to have the best up to date info. Thanks.

A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.

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