Jiu-Jitsu or Shaolin Kempo

[Gomme]

Hello,

 

I wish to follow a course of self defense. Close to my home, there are 2 schools: "Shaolin Kempo" and "Jiu Jitsu" (japanese)

 

which is the best for self defense and why

 

Thank's

[goshinman]

They are nearly identical in both technique and combat philosophy. But the japanese jujitsu has ground submissions, shaolin kempo does not.

[Bdaze]

GoshinMan took the words right outta my mouth

 

personally i'd go with jujitsu, but thats just personal preferance.either way it's probably a good idea to go check out the schools in person, maybe demo a class, then you can decide which you prefer.

 

i say this mostly because there are many diferant styles and variants of shaolin kenpo as well as jujitsu which rely mostly on the person who teaches it.

[Karateka_latino]

I'd take Japense Ju jitsu.. but also depends on how good the teacher is. Look for quality instruction rather than a particular style.

[Red J]

But the japanese jujitsu has ground submissions, shaolin kempo does not.

 

News to me. We do a lot of grappling and groundwork. It depends on the school.

 

If you have it narrowed down to two, visit each and go with the quality of instruction and school over general opinions of the style.

[goshinman]

But the japanese jujitsu has ground submissions, shaolin kempo does not.

 

News to me. We do a lot of grappling and groundwork. It depends on the school.

 

If you have it narrowed down to two, visit each and go with the quality of instruction and school over general opinions of the style.

 

Are the ground submissions apart of the regular shaolin kenpo curriculam or has your sifu simply added them into it? I ask this because I know a lot of people are adding a groundfighting curriculam into their programs since the whole bjj craze. It is important to know if it is taught as a whole in shaolin kenpo or if it varies from school to school because as far as I know it doesn't include groundfighting as a regular part of the technique set, but all japanese jujitsu schools include ne waza. I could be wrong though so please enlighten me.

[Venezolano]

I'd go with TJJ by the moment..

[Red J]

Are the ground submissions apart of the regular shaolin kenpo curriculam or has your sifu simply added them into it?

 

The submissions come from Chin Na and Jiu Jutsu. Seizing, controlling, and immobolizing are important parts of the curriculum. They are included in the basic curriculum for intermediate and advanced levels.

[fragbot]

Hello,

 

I wish to follow a course of self defense. Close to my home, there are 2 schools: "Shaolin Kempo" and "Jiu Jitsu" (japanese)

 

which is the best for self defense and why

 

Thank's

 

Ummm, it would be helpful if you could be more specific.

 

For now, I'll assume by Shaolin Kempo you mean one of the bajillions of schools out of the Cerio/Villari/godKnowsWhoElseTheySeemToGrowExponetially branches of the convicted murderer who died in prison James Mitose's Kempo instead of Doshin So's Shorinji Kempo*. Anyhow, as a bit of general advice, I'd suggest you'd be well-served to checkout the instructor and school very conscientiously.

 

Unfortunately, I can't assume anything about the JJJ since it's a huge topic. Overall, I'd be leery of people teaching jujutsu who created their own system and who have a primary art of karate. While some judokas have done this, it's inarguable that judo is closer to jujutsu (koryu or gendai) than karate is.

 

*even with its religious overtones, I like this system. It has a nice mixture of techniques, it's honest about where they originated, and hasn't even the slightest whiff of the old fry grease oft-associated with commercialization.

[Drunken Monkey]

i'm slightly confused here guys.

 

shaolin is generally the style from the shaolin temples and as such is normally refered to as shaolin kung fu or shaolin kuen.

 

isn't kempo the japanese way of saying "fist style" or something similar?

 

where did this shaolin kempo come from?