alanseijas Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 For the part about the police being involved, if they do have on record that this situation was going on, and the time came to take matters into one's own hands, then at least one has some kind of defense in court if the stalker person tries to press assault charges after they are taken out. It can be pointed out that there was a persistant problem with the stalker that escalated to necessitate force, and the police had documentation of this very problem, yet did not act on it themselves. In my opinion, it is just covering a possible liability, and it is better to have thought through all scenarios than to simply disregard one. I agree 100% with this. You are facing harrassment, so cover your butt if you need to defend yourself by letting the cops know. The patch or crest worn by Isshinryu karateka often raises admiration and curiosity. The patch is based on a day dream Tatsuo Shimabuku had in the fifties while he was creating his karate style. This dream was the missing piece in the puzzle called Isshinryu. The patch is often incorrectly called Mizu Gami, which means 'water goddess'. Originally the Isshinryu emblem was called 'Isshinryu No Megami', which means 'Goddess of Isshinryu'. The goddess is the Goddess of Isshinryu karate and not the goddess of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sano Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 you lack guts. i can tell you just talk blab blab blab. not dangerous ha thats funny. come to clark and division i want to see you stand in front of cabrine greens (i know i spelled it wrong) for one second with out getting mug or shot. and tell me if it's dangerous or not. i mean they told the cops there if you dont arrest ten people every night your fired. falcon kick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingkaratechamp Posted October 2, 2003 Author Share Posted October 2, 2003 He hasn't imed me in about a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Spider Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 The scenario I had in mind when I brought the possibility of suicide bombing up was one in which someone and a few of their friends had a face to face confrontation with the stalker person, without weapons of their own, or a tactical team for backup. By face to face, I mean that they all withing, or very close to, normal striking range for hands and feet. In this case, I would think that a fifty pound explosive with a few pounds of nails attached would be effective enough in killing or seriously injuring all involved parties. If the nails were placed around the suicide bombers entire body, and the explosive were on both the person's front and back, the blast and shrapnel would be enough to kill, or seriously injure someone within normal striking range. Well, if you're that close, I suppose that would work. In fact it gives me an even better idea. The bomber could wear a Level IV ballistic vest and strap the explosives to their front. (under trenchcoat) Then they could walk up near the people and give them a big hug then boom! That'd work so good! I'll have to keep that scenario in mind when plotting defenses in crowded areas. But yes, I was thinking that he would keep his distance a bit more which would provide lots of opportunity to "hit the deck" as it were. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Sano, I will assume that it was me that you were talking to when you said that I lack the guts, so again I will ask, what is with the personal attack? Does it just upset you do much that I disagreed with your methods that you feel the need to lash out at me for it? And how can you tell that I lack guts? You do not really know anything about me. Also, I am curious how you can tell that I am just talk? If you can, please show me, or direct me to, a post of mine that was me just running my mouth about being tough, because I honestly do not remember ever posting anything of the sort. But if you can show me one where I rambled on about being tough and hardcore, then I will agree with you that I talk too much. As my memory serves me though, I never made any such claims, so your accusations are way off based. I do not talk tough. I do not act hardcore. I have nothing I feel that I need to prove. Do you have something to prove? Is that why you feel the need to talk trash to people over the internet because they had a civil disagreement with you? At least I thought what I said was civil, and again I ask you to show me where I was not if indeed I was not. Otherwise it seems silly to start trash talking over some trivial subject that you read on a martial arts message board on the internet to someone you have never met and know nothing about. I am still standing by the fact that there are not any cities in the U.S. or Canada, so most of North America, where someone cannot live their whole life without fear of a violent death at the hands of another person. Is New York one of these cities (I am assuming that is the city you were referring to in your last post)? Yes, it is. Are there parts of New York where a person who did not know what they were walking into, or even if they did, would have to worry about making it through the night? Yes, there are; you named one yourself. As a whole, however, New York is a relatively safe city. If it were not, the millions of visitors and tourists that come to New York would go some place else. Would it be cowardly of me if I went to New York and did not visit the place you invited me to? Not in my opinion. If it is that dangerous, why would I go there? Why would anyone go there if they did not have to? Is there some really excellent restaurant there that is literally to die for? The only reason that I can think of for someone to needlessly go there would be that they had some sort of complex where they felt the needed to prove they were tough. I hear the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea is a pretty rough place. Are people that do not live around there, or do not go there to prove themselves, not as tough as the people who do live around there or have been there? No, they are just smart for not putting themselves in that situation. I feel that I have gone on long enough now. I have left you some specific questions, as I did before (like why a situation should be escalated to violence if it did not need to be). If you would like to continue this showing a little more respect, or at least civilness, than you have been, then feel free to respond to those questions. If not, then I suggest that you should take your aggression out when you train, not over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Warp Spider, I like the hug idea and thought myself that would be an effective way to do someone in, but I did not think of the ballistic vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Spider Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Well, the vest is just there to help direct the charge so that it will mostly be driven through the other person. (And if you're lucky, it might even protect you, though I can't say that with certainty) If you didn't have a vest on the charge would expand in all directions so it wouldn't be as efficient. It'd probrably still work without it. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 It seems like there should be a way to shape the charge to blast outwards; that is how claymores work if I am not mistaken. Of course, I have no idea how difficult it would be to accomplish this if it even could be. Claymores are military grade; suicide bombs generally are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Spider Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I think that a claymore basically has the same thing. It has a solid shell that is open at one end, so the blast is focus outward. However, there's also shaped charges that can be used for "lockpicking" and I'm not sure if they work the same way or not. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 how about them ones they use to "implode" buildings? using a precise explosion to "cut" a guy in half sounds fun! you could even experiment in trying to create zig-zag cuts or something... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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