Sho-ju Posted September 23, 2003 Posted September 23, 2003 I was watching a link that has Funakoshi doing tekki but he doesn't use any mai geri at all. Does anyone know when they were added and by who? Is the mai geri better then the stomp? Does it change the rest of the kata if you are adding in a front mai geri? http://www.kc-shotokan.com/kata/tekki1.htm
Jussi Häkkinen Posted September 23, 2003 Posted September 23, 2003 There are no maegeri in Tekki nor in original Naihanchi. If you're doing them in your style, your style has added them. Only kicklike movements that Tekki and Naihanchi contain are namigaeshi and fumigeri - sweeps and stomping movements. Not all styles do these, either. In Okinawan versions the fumigeri are generally either very soft stomps or inexistent. Jussi HäkkinenOkinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)TurkuFinland
gheinisch Posted September 23, 2003 Posted September 23, 2003 We do Naihanchi and it has no mai geri's. As Jussi has said, it contains only sweeps and stomping movements. "If your hand goes forth withhold your temper""If your temper goes forth withold your hand"-Gichin Funakoshi
G95champ Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 The kick is a wave kick used to attack the groin, block a kick, or sweep the leg. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
SaiFightsMS Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I have seen one group that in tekki nidan during the part that can be intrepreted as a head grab they do a front kick there. It is done as a front kick straight into a stomp kick. I have only seen that in one group.
G95champ Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 We teach the move you are talking about Sai as a knee strike but I too have a book that showes it as a kick instead of a knee as well. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
SaiFightsMS Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 I find one of the most fascinating things about katas is the way that one move can be used in so many different ways. Tekki nidan is a very interesting kata when you take it apart. I believe the group that does it as a front kick is a KUGB offshoot.
Sho-ju Posted September 25, 2003 Author Posted September 25, 2003 My shotokan sensei was from Scotland so that would make sense. Thanks. I was recently told that the kick could be used as bunkai but that would depend on the attacks head height during the wrist lock from yoi. Tekkis are the best kata...
cymry Posted October 3, 2003 Posted October 3, 2003 The kick is a wave kick used to attack the groin, block a kick, or sweep the leg. I don't think it's a kick to the groin. I'm not sure what your application is, but mine would be attacker in front of you, forearm strike to the face, then grab opponent (doesn't matter much where, both shoulders or shoulder and opposite side), kick to the inside of the knee causing a break or the opponent to buckle at least, then throw to the side (if they fall ove your leg great!) IMHO, at least
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